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Copperhead nest in the ball pit

  1. Sep 7, 2006 #1

    Pythagorean

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    WARNING: This is disturbing, but very relevent information.

    This isn't a cited article, it showed up as a myspace bulletin, but it's concievable, so I thought as a reciever of the information, it was my duty to pass it on:

    Note: this isn't about the health of fast food, this is much more disturbing; if you're a parent, please read it:

     
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  3. Sep 7, 2006 #2

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    my bad...

    from http://www.snopes.com/horrors/parental/archer.asp

    an urban legends page.
     
  4. Sep 7, 2006 #3

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    Seems like an urban legend, but I suppose it's possible. Sanitation depends on the integrity of the people who are responsible for managing and maintaining such facilities.

    The story about the copperheads in the play area is plausible. My mother (a nurse) once mentioned a story of one child who died after being bitten by 'worms' he had been collecting. The 'worms' turned out to be baby copperheads. At the time the child was bitten, it was not clear that he had been bitten because the bites were so small.

    I was bitten a few years ago by something, very likely a copperhead, when I was working in a compost pile, which I had build on wood pallets. After feeling a stabbing pain in my hand, I dropped a big chunk of compost, and found two puncture wounds at the base of two fingers. The pain subsided about the time my hand and wrist began to swell and started going numb, except for the pain radiating up my forearm. I slowly went inside the house, cleaned the wound and treated it. I also took anti-inflammatory medication. The swelling went down and the pain dissipated over the next 8-12 hrs. I was fine the next day.
     
  5. Sep 7, 2006 #4
    Does that mean I can go back into the ball pit now?
     
  6. Sep 7, 2006 #5

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    I would have put a tourniquet on my arm and gone to the neareast emergency room. Snakes freak me out. I've mentioned here about the time when I was 4-5 that a neighbor came running at me with a shovel and barely missed me by a couple of inches. The edge of the shovel slammed into the ground right next to my bare foot. I ran inside the house telling my mother the neighbor had just tried to kill me.

    Turned out he'd seen a snake approaching me and had the sense not to alert me for fear that I would startle the snake into striking. It was a 5 foot long water moccasin (cotton mouth).
     
  7. Sep 7, 2006 #6

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    It may be an unfound bias, but I don't expect much integrity out of the McDonald's crew (namely because they're working at McDonald's I guess). I made the mistake of doing the research after I posted that (rather than before), but I still wouldn't let my kids (if I had them) play in a public ball pen. I wouldnt trust the sanitation, regardless of the immediate safety.

    This is why I live in Alaska. I'm a big pussycat when it comes to things that are smaller than me and can kill/seriously injur me. The Bears just seem so cuddly.
     
  8. Sep 7, 2006 #7

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  9. Sep 7, 2006 #8
    :rofl: Damnnnnnnnnnnnnn :frown:

    That's why I'm a big kid, so I can push them out of my way and get to the ball pit first. Just because there smaller doesn't mean I have pitty for them. :devil:
     
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  10. Sep 7, 2006 #9

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    So you're a poison taster for the ball pit then? :P
     
  11. Sep 7, 2006 #10

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    I wouldn't really expect them to be so bad as the urban legend claims, but those public ball pits seem likely to be full of plenty of germs. Afterall, even if someone is cleaning them out once a day or once a week, small kids will still get in and suck or drool on everything, and fingers that were only moments ago stuck up their nose will then be playing with the balls...or is that baseball players? :uhh: Anyway, I'd certainly avoid those things during cold and flu season if not any other time.
     
  12. Sep 7, 2006 #11

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    Better yet, avoid the entire problem (plus many more) by simply not taking your children to crap-shacks like McDonalds and Burger King in the first place.

    - Warren
     
  13. Sep 7, 2006 #12

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    Going for the occassional "treat" or kid's party (much better than dealing with the disaster such things leave behind in your own home), or stopping for lunch while traveling isn't horrible for kids. That's how I was raised. Making it a regular part of their diet, on the other hand, is where the problem comes in.
     
  14. Sep 7, 2006 #13

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    Gak, I just had visons of those nasty kids whose parents let them run around with green snot running into their mouths. :eek: They're rubbing green snot on all the balls!! Thank god these pits had just started becomming popular after my kids had outgrown that stage. :surprised

    This could be a new business venture. I could start a franchise of "sanitary ballpits". Each child has to don a hazmat suit prior to entering the ballpit.
     
  15. Sep 7, 2006 #14

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    :rofl: Might work better with the moonwalk bouncer things...dress up in a "spacesuit" to go in. :biggrin: Where can you get hazmat suits for children? I think when I have kids, this will be required!
     
  16. Sep 7, 2006 #15

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    Tourniquets along with most of what I first learned are now out of favor.

    http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/995_snakes.html
     
  17. Sep 7, 2006 #16

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    My children will never go to a McCrap until they can drive up themselves.

    On a different note: Snopes.com what a great site! I send emails back to people linking the Snopes page that skewars their forwarded alarmist stories.
     
  18. Sep 7, 2006 #17

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    I found that was a VERY effective way to get a few persistent acquaintances to stop forwarding those things to me.
     
  19. Sep 7, 2006 #18

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    I've known they've been discouraging tourniquets for years, the whole point of the tourniquet is to block the venom from entering the bloodstream and is to be placed between the bite and the heart, but people have been known to place the tourniquet outside of this (Darwin Award). Not to mention not knowing that you can't leave a tourniquet on for more than a very short period of time without damage.

    I'm not stupid and the emergency room of the closest hospital is 5 minutes from my house. I could safely do a tourniquet. :smile:
     
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  21. Sep 7, 2006 #20

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    Haha, I remember those urban legends from years ago—another thing that gets passed around because it is scary.

    Proof? I don't think there has been any whatsoever, but I don't know. I've been to the bottom of several 'ball pits' and found no feces or vomit. Wouldn't the whole place stink to high heaven if there was crap at the bottom of the ball pit?

    What kind of guy that has extra heroin lying around would not be using it for himself?
     
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