# Cryogenic electron emission phenomenon has no known physics explanation, Physics.org

1. Mar 11, 2010

### rhody

Physics.org: March 10, 2010 By Lisa Zyga

Hans-Otto Meyer, a physics professor at Indiana University has shown that the electron firings are distributed in time, in burst patterns, but in a "peculiar, correlated way", he believes the correlation involves some kind of trapping mechanism, not yet fully understood.

From the article,
and again later,
Meyer concludes:

Having looked at the band structure link posted above I realize why I belong to PF, this concept is best understood and explained by the physicist's who share and collaborate here.
Ideas as to the cause or causes of this phenomenon ?

Rhody...

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2. Mar 12, 2010

### ZapperZ

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Re: Cryogenic electron emission phenomenon has no known physics explanation, Physics.

Since I'm also working in photodetector, photocathodes, and the likes, here's what I've deciphered so far from this, based on my understanding of it, and my discussion with others.

It would be nice to know the rate of this single-electron emissions. Why? This is because there are other possible source that could trigger such emissions:

1. Most of these photomultipliers have K-40 in the glass substrate. So you have a nature background source.

2. Is the rate of emission similar to the rate of cosmic ray hitting the photomultiplier? Trying to shield against this isn't that easy.

How these translates into the observed behavior as temperature is lowered is still debatable. But it would be useful to make sure that none of these are the trigger, so that we can eliminate the obvious sources.

Zz.

3. Mar 14, 2010

### Bob S

Re: Cryogenic electron emission phenomenon has no known physics explanation, Physics.

Is the photocathode on a glass plate (like a semitransparent end-window photocathode for a photomultiplier), or on a solid meta-backed photocathode, like a 1P21 side-on internal photocathode? How does the resistivity of the semi-transparent photocathode vary with temperature? Can slow charge buildup on/in the photocathode drain into the external circuit easily at all temperatures without voltage buildup?

Bob S

4. Mar 14, 2010

### rhody

Re: Cryogenic electron emission phenomenon has no known physics explanation, Physics.

Hi Bob,

Sorry for not posting a link to the article in the original post, here it is: http://www.physorg.com/news187421719.html" [Broken]

Here is the description of the experiment from the link above, I don't believe it addresses your question though...

In his experiments, Meyer placed a photomultiplier inside an empty container, which he then submerged in liquid nitrogen or helium. Using radiation cooling, he cooled the photomultiplier to a temperature of 80 K (-193° C) after about one day, and to 4 K (-269° C) in another day. With this setup, he could detect cryogenic dark events, which are shown to be caused by single electrons emitted from the cathode of the photomultiplier.

As previous research has shown, starting from room temperature, the dark rate decreases as temperature decreases, but only up to a point. Below about 220 K (-53° C), the dark rate levels off. With further cooling, it begins to rise, and continues to increase at least down to 4 K (-269° C), the lowest temperature for which Meyer has data. Most of Meyer’s experiments were performed at around 80 K (-193° C).

Rhody...

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5. Mar 14, 2010

### ZapperZ

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Re: Cryogenic electron emission phenomenon has no known physics explanation, Physics.

Read the actual paper. He used a particular Hamamatsu photomultiplier.

Zz.

6. Mar 14, 2010

### Bob S

Re: Cryogenic electron emission phenomenon has no known physics explanation, Physics.

After reading the online paper about the observed cryogenic emission, I would investigate the possibility of multiply-charged positive ions being accelerated slowly from the region of the first dynode to the photocathode, and imbedding in the photocathode. Could positive ions from further up the dynode chain be accelerated down the dynode chain with some multiplication and eventually accelerated as multiple positive ions to the photocathode?

Bob S

7. Mar 15, 2010

### ZapperZ

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This would be puzzling if it occurs.

These ions are typically generated by electrons crashing into some surface. This means that the higher the energy of the electrons, the more one tends to get these back-bombarding ions. This has been investigated before (it is a particular concern to me since these back-bombarding ions can destroy/degrade the photocathode surface, which is my responsibility). However, in Fig. 2 of the paper, the dark current rate remains constant at 81K even when the working voltage is increased. This is inconsistent with the presence of such ions.

Zz.

8. Mar 16, 2010

### Modey3

Re: Cryogenic electron emission phenomenon has no known physics explanation, Physics.

Hello,

Hamamatsu has a nice picture of a photomultiplier:

http://learn.hamamatsu.com/articles/photomultipliers.html [Broken]

I've actually never worked with a dynode, but I am wondering if they work by secondary-electron emission and sequent multiplication? Also, how many volts are usually across the series of dynodes? Thanks

modey3

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9. Mar 16, 2010

### ZapperZ

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That is the mechanism for the multiplication of the original electrons coming from the photocathode. This is true for multichannel plate as well.

I'm guessing that the working voltage is the same as that used in this experiment in Fig. 2, which would be of the order of 1-2 kV.

Zz.

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10. Mar 16, 2010

### Bob S

Re: Cryogenic electron emission phenomenon has no known physics explanation, Physics.

All of the measurements were taken on photomultipliers with transparent end windows (photocathode). The rising cryogenic electron emission with decreasing temperature is puzzling, and could be associated with the photocathode resistivity (with a thin (transparent?) platinum backing). Have any tests been made on photomultipliers with solid metal photocathodes, like the 1P21? This would determine whether the cryo electron emission is due to the photocathode design, or some other phenomenon.

Bob S

11. Mar 18, 2010

### cgk

Re: Cryogenic electron emission phenomenon has no known physics explanation, Physics.

As a wild and unfounded guess I offer slow-electron/phonon scattering in the photo cathode. Primary photons in the photo cathode might come from cosmic rays or radioactive sources, but the interaction of the resulting electrons (secondary electrons, Auger electrons, whatever) with lattice vibrations might have some impact on these electrons' ability to travel through the cathode and leave it on the side of the focusing electrode. In a similar meachanism as the one which reduces a metal's conductivity with increasing temperature, this might make SE transmittance to the dynode setup less likely at higher phonon density of states (i.e., at higher temperatures).
The correlated bursts might then be related to multiple secondary electrons related to a single initial event (e.g., cosmic ray, radioactivity, etc), which just happen to travel different multi-scattered paths through the photo cathode. The actual effective movement of low-energy electrons inside a material subject to scattering is actually quite slow (in the order of cm/s), if i remember correctly. So that might lead to a measurable spread of the burst events in the ms--s range.

12. Mar 18, 2010

### ZapperZ

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However, if you note, in the paper, the author explicitly indicated that, based on a series of measurements, the dark counts originates out of the photocathode and not due to any secondary emission. One can sorta see this when he increased the working voltage and no change in the dark count rates occurs. Now unless one wants to argue that he has exceeded the saturation voltage for the photomultiplier, that observation is very hard to reconcile with the idea that this is all coming from the action of the secondary electrons.

I'll be able to test just the photocathode alone in a few months when we finally finish setting up our bialkali photocathode fabrication system, hopefully with cryogenics capability. We might even try to get the same glass windows that are used in these Hamamatsu photomultiplier as substrates. The only concern I have is how small the photocurrent will be coming just from the photocathode itself without any amplification from a MCP or other charge multiplier.

Zz.

13. Mar 18, 2010

### cgk

Re: Cryogenic electron emission phenomenon has no known physics explanation, Physics.

I'm sorry, I used confusing terminology: What I meant were secondary electrons'' *in* the photocathode, in the sense of the secondary electrons (SE) mechanism of image formation in a scanning electron microscope (not secondary electrons in the dynode electron multiplication steps).
Basically, some single high-energy charged particle in the photocathode (say, 10keV or more, whereever that might come from) could generate a great number of semi-free low-energy secondary electrons inside the photocathode by an avalance excitation process. These slow electrons would then be subjected to various random lattice scattering events, making their travel through the cathode very slow. The dependence BurstDuration ~ BurstSize^(1/2) quoted in the paper also reminds me of the lattice random walks such generated SEs would be subjected to.

Of course, this is still some wild guess, and I do not claim to have any truth in it.

14. Mar 18, 2010

### ZapperZ

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Hum... the problem here is that the photocathode is rather thin. The photomultiplier works in the transmission mode, meaning that you have an almost transparent photocathode on the glass surface. The thickness of the photocathode is very much less than the electron escape depth for a typical photoelectron (in the eV range). So your 10 keV particles don't interact with the photocathode that easily.

Zz.