Curl of a Gradient: Calculating in (x,y) Plane

In summary, the conversation discusses the properties of a function ##v(x,y)## and its gradient and curl. It is stated that the curl of the gradient of a smooth scalar field always equals zero due to Clairaut's theorem. The speaker expresses surprise and the conversation ends with a thank you.
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Let ##v(x,y)## be function of (x,y) and not z.
[tex]\nabla v=\hat x \frac{\partial v}{\partial x}+\hat y \frac{\partial v}{\partial y}[/tex]
[tex]\nabla \times \nabla v=\left|\begin{array} \;\hat x & \hat y & \hat z \\ \frac{\partial}{\partial x} & \frac{\partial}{\partial y} & \frac{\partial}{\partial z}\\ \frac{\partial v}{\partial x} & \frac{\partial v}{\partial y} & 0 \end{array}\right|=\hat x\left(-\frac{\partial^2 v}{\partial y\partial z}\right)-\hat y\left(-\frac{\partial^2 v}{\partial x\partial z}\right) +\hat z\left(\frac{\partial^2 v}{\partial y\partial x}-\frac{\partial^2 v}{\partial x\partial y} \right) =0 [/tex]

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What makes you think that's wrong? The curl of the gradient of a smooth scalar field ##f:\mathbb{R}^{3}\rightarrow \mathbb{R}## always vanishes: ##(\nabla \times \nabla f)^{i} = \epsilon^{ijk}\partial_{j}\partial_{k}f = 0##.
 
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WannabeNewton said:
What makes you think that's wrong? The curl of the gradient of a smooth scalar field ##f:\mathbb{R}^{3}\rightarrow \mathbb{R}## always vanishes: ##(\nabla \times \nabla f)^{i} = \epsilon^{ijk}\partial_{j}\partial_{k}f = 0##.

I did not know that!

Thanks
 
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What is going on here is the use of Clairaut's theorem, which says that with enough continuity the mixed partial derivatives in any order give the same value. That's why, for example, ##v_{xy} = v_{yx}##.
 

1. What is the definition of curl of a gradient in the (x,y) plane?

The curl of a gradient in the (x,y) plane is a mathematical operation that measures the amount of local rotation or circulation of a vector field. It is calculated by taking the partial derivative of the y-component of the gradient with respect to x and subtracting the partial derivative of the x-component of the gradient with respect to y.

2. How is the curl of a gradient related to the concept of a conservative vector field?

If the curl of a gradient in the (x,y) plane is equal to zero, then the vector field is considered conservative. This means that the path taken by a particle moving through the vector field does not depend on the starting point or the path taken. In other words, the work done by the vector field along any closed path is zero.

3. Can the curl of a gradient be negative or positive?

Yes, the curl of a gradient can be both negative and positive. A negative curl indicates clockwise rotation while a positive curl indicates counterclockwise rotation.

4. How is the curl of a gradient used in real-world applications?

The curl of a gradient has many applications in physics and engineering, particularly in fluid dynamics and electromagnetism. It is used to study the circulation of fluids and the flow of electric and magnetic fields, which can help in the design and analysis of various systems and devices.

5. Are there any other ways to calculate the curl of a gradient in the (x,y) plane?

Yes, the curl of a gradient can also be calculated using the vector calculus identity known as the cross product rule, which involves taking the cross product of the gradient operator with the vector field. This method can be more efficient for complex vector fields and is often used in computer simulations and modeling.

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