Currently studying for finals, with torque

In summary: And I realized that I forgot to mention in the attempt at a solution that ##a## is not zero, I was just saying that the net force in the x direction is zero. Sorry for any confusion.
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Homework Statement



A ball of mass m and radius r (Icm = 2mr^2 /5) is released from rest, and rolls without slipping down a ramp.
(a) Draw a free body force diagram for the ball. [Hint: careful—there has to be friction. (Why?) Further, it is static friction, and not kinetic friction. (Why?)]
(b) Use ΣF = macm and Στcm = Icmαcm to find the (linear) acceleration of the ball down the ramp. [Ans: a = (5gsinθ)/7]
(c) Use your result from part (b) to find the linear speed of the ball after it rolls a distance L down the ramp. Check your answer by using conservation of energy.
(d) Solve for the friction force acting on the ball. [Ans: f = (2mgsinθ)/7.]
(e) Solve for the normal force, N.

The entire problem can be found here, diagram included

Homework Equations


Στcm = Icmcm = Fr
ΣF = m*acm
KE = (1/2)Icm*ω + (1/2)mv^2
PE = mgh

The Attempt at a Solution



a. Pretty straight forward, Force of friction opposes force of gravity in x direction and both are equal to each other. Static friction allows the ball to roll because when the ball does not slip, the portion touching the ramp is actually stationary (I can't think of a better word). If it were kinetic friction, then it is implied that the ball is sliding down the ramp.

b. This is where I have a problem. My past notes show the "correct" steps, but there is one step at the very beginning that I do not understand.

Στ = Iω + mr^2 *ω <-- Why is there that mr^2ω? If it's related to kinetic energy, then what happened the (1/2)s?
= (2/5)mr2ω + mr2ω = (7/5)mr2ω = (7/5)mrω

ΣF = ma = Fg,x - Ff = 0 ∴ Ff = Fg,x = mgsinθ

mgsinθ *r = (7/5)mra
a = (5/7)gsinθ

c. Did I do this correctly?
KE = (1/2)(2/5)mv2 + (1/2)mv2 = (7/10)mv2
PE = mgh = mgLsinθ
mgLsinθ = (7/10)mv2
v2 = (10/7)gLsinθ

d.
rFf = Iα = (2/5)mra
Ff = (2/5)ma = (2/5)(5/7)mgsinθ = (2/7)mgsinθ

e.
Ff = Nus = mgcosθ *us
N = mgcosθ

Anyway, what I really need help on is the first step of b. As I said, we already went over this problem in my discussion class, but I just don't understand the first step of b. Thank you for your time!
 
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penguinnnnnx5 said:
b. This is where I have a problem. My past notes show the "correct" steps, but there is one step at the very beginning that I do not understand.

Στ = Iω + mr^2 *ω <-- Why is there that mr^2ω? If it's related to kinetic energy, then what happened the (1/2)s?
= (2/5)mr2ω + mr2ω = (7/5)mr2ω = (7/5)mrω

Note that the above equation is not correct dimensionally. Should ##\omega## be replaced by ##\alpha##? It looks like this is an attempt to set up torques about the point of contact of the sphere with the surface and the extra term with the ##mr^2## is due to the parallel axis theorem in shifting from the cm to the point of contact. But the question asks you to set up the equation using the cm as axis for the torques:

##\sum\tau_{cm} = I_{cm}\alpha##.
ΣF = ma = Fg,x - Ff = 0 ∴ Ff = Fg,x = mgsinθ

##a## is not zero. You want to find ##a##.
 
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Ahhh, that makes more sense. I completely forgot about the parallel axis theorem. Thank you! It all makes sense now.
 

1. What is torque?

Torque is a measure of the rotational force applied to an object. It is calculated by multiplying the force applied to the object by the distance from the axis of rotation.

2. How is torque related to studying for finals?

Torque is a concept commonly studied in physics and engineering courses, which are often taken by students who are preparing for finals exams.

3. What are some real-life examples of torque?

Some examples of torque in everyday life include opening a jar lid, using a wrench to tighten a bolt, and spinning a top.

4. How is torque different from force?

Force is a vector quantity, meaning it has both magnitude and direction. Torque, on the other hand, is a rotational force that does not necessarily have a specific direction.

5. How can I calculate torque?

To calculate torque, you need to know the force applied to the object and the distance from the axis of rotation. The formula for torque is T = F x d, where T is torque, F is force, and d is distance.

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