Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Dark Matter as primordial Black Holes in extended Halos

  1. Oct 16, 2003 #1


    User Avatar

    Knotty Jets, the Tell Tales for Early Dark Matter and Spiral Galaxy formation.

    It is proposed that the new paradigm for Black Holes with a nuclear particle content, see http://home.planet.nl/~vuyk0022/ , lead to a 2 stage semi-cold Black Hole evaporating Big Bang see http://home.planet.nl/~vuyk0022/App_Haisch.htm#appendix40 which is supposed to be the origin of simple progenitor Spiral Galaxies equipped with at least one so called Galaxy Anchor Black Hole (GABH) at either side of the disk.
    These Early simple “dumbbell” Spirals are supposed to be able to merge, without the merging of the GABHs itself.

    This merging prohibition is part of the new paradigm for Black Holes, which tell us that Black Holes only merge if the vacuum structure/pressure has become insufficient, as is supposed to happen in the so called Big Crunch. Second, that Black Holes Repel single atoms thus gas clouds, but attract massive stars, which is supposed to be the origin of all dwarf globular stellar concentrations.
    If there is still Gas in the neighborhood of these GABHs it is proposed that a Dwarf Irregular Galaxy in between these GABHs is formed, or even a Dwarf Spheroidal Galaxy .

    If there are enough stars available from Galaxy merging activities: GABHs can capture these stars and form Elliptical shaped star clusters around themselves called Dwarf Elliptical Galaxies.
    Consequently these GABHs will stay isolated and will form two axial orientated "Tree alike" outer Halos of the Spiral System.
    Within Early Spiral Galaxies, these GABHs are supposed to form axial located strings which can be identified as Knots inside Jets produced by the Spiral Radio Galaxies. It is well known that these knots don't move inside these Jets, which is in line with the new GABH paradigm that Black Hole nuclei are supposed to be “Locked up “ within the oscillating vacuum structure. See also: 3C303 http://hea-www.harvard.edu/XJET/source-d.cgi?3C_303
    The Spiral galaxy 0313-192 is supposed to be an example of a Spiral with GABH induced extended Halos in "Tree" form see http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/research/rg0313.html
    It is proposed That these GABHs can collect stars and form Dim Dwarfs Ellipticals Galaxies. In addition it is proposed that in between these strings of GABHs, Irregular and Spheroidal Galaxies can form like the Dwarf Sculptor see: http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/March01/Mateo/Mateo4.html

    It was professor F.D.A.Hartwick (University of Victoria BC Ca.) who described the interesting extended Halo structure of more or less aligned dim Dwarf Galaxies of the Milky Way (10 dwarfs) and Andromeda Galaxy (11 Dwarfs) See: “The Structure of the Outer Halo of the Galaxy and its Relationship to Nearby Large-Scale Structure” (arXiv:Astro-ph/9912083 v1 4 Dec. 1999.) http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/9912/9912083.pdf
    Progenitor Spirals are supposed to merge at last into Giant Spiral Galaxies.
    Within Galaxy Clusters these Spiral Galaxies are supposed to change automatically into Giant Ellipticals, because the alignment of the Tree alike GABHs of the different merger Galaxies inside these Giants will become more random orientated.
    However even inside Giant Elliptical Galaxies it seems possible that some remnants of the axial GABH structure can be identified, see : http://hea-www.harvard.edu/XJET/source-d.cgi?M87
    If this is true, Dwarf Elliptical Galaxies must each harbor a primordial massive GABH which is supported by the fact that most elliptical dwarfs and even Globular Galaxies do not show much gaseous content. (The new paradigm Black Holes are supposed to repel gas but attract Stars)

    The extended Halo GABH is supposed to be a balancing aid for the axial stability of the Galaxy and is influencing the forming of Spiral arms and Galaxy structure. A lot of the Universal Dark Matter in the form of GABHs, should consequently be concentrated inside Dwarf Elliptical Galaxies or unresolved without a stellar globular shell,. inside extended lobes.

    As a result, the contemporary idea that all Galaxies harbor a super massive Black Hole in their nucleus should be wrong.
    If black holes inside Galaxies are not primordial but only Supernova remnants, then one could speculate that only collections of the smallest Supernova Black Holes should be concentrated in these Galaxy nuclei.
    Globular Clusters then, should harbor even bigger (the oldest) Supernova black holes.
    This would support the idea that black holes tend to organize from small to big, from inside to outside Galaxies.
    This could be a possible explanation for the knotty structure of our Galaxy nucleus, harboring only small black holes..
    A special different scenario however, for giant Elliptical Galaxies equipped with internal GABHs is possible inside the center of Galaxy clusters.
    These Giant Ellipticals could be a combined effort of a concentration of GABHs (Dwarf Galaxies) connected to the ring of outer Galaxies of the Galaxy Cluster, which have different axial orientations, all pointing into the center of the Cluster.

    If these GABHs come together in the center of Galaxy clusters, A new Giant Elliptical Galaxy could be born equipped with old stars from other galaxies and the original Dwarf stars around these GABHs.
    Then these Ellipticals could be called "super Dwarfs"' see the example mentioned above: of a Knotty jet inside M87. : http://hea-www.harvard.edu/XJET/source-d.cgi?M87 which seem to have a much higher Dark Matter content than the surrounding Galaxies.

    Galaxy Anchor Black Holes (GABHs) pop up as Tidal Dwarf Galaxies inside Tidal Galaxy Tails.

    It is well known that interacting Galaxies are mostly accompanied by a relative more than average number of Dwarf Galaxies called “Tidal Dwarfs”, see J.Hibbard: Tidal Dwarf Galaxies:. http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~jhibbard/TDG/tdg.html . The origin of this phenomenon according to my new Big Bang paradigm, ( http://home.planet.nl/~vuyk0022/App_Haisch.htm#appendix40 ) must be found in the assumption that most Spiral Galaxy connected GABHs did not have the chance in their history to capture Stars from their neighborhood to form Dwarfs, but are supposed to be still hidden inside the extended outer Halo of the Spiral Galaxy.
    However it is also postulated before that All Giant Galaxies even Giant Spiral Galaxies are grown up in history, by the merging of multiple smaller (primordial) Spiral Galaxies. As a result, the Dwarf Galaxy abundance which we see today in tidal tails of merging Galaxies, should have happened in history around ALL Giant Galaxies. As a conclusion we would suggest that GABHs which are located near their Hosts, may lose their captured Shell of stars after the Galaxy has become stable again.

    It is remarkable that the number of Dwarf Elliptical Galaxies inside Galaxy Clusters, is relatively much higher than in the normal field around Spiral Galaxies. See Kraan Korteweg and T ammann (Virgo: figure 10) http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Sandage3/Sand2_2.html#Figure 10 . It is assumed that Dwarf Elliptical Galaxies are able to keep their Stellar shell in place by the different structure of surrounding GABHs (Dark matter) within the Cluster, or by the continuous exchange of stars with the Cluster environment.
    In field Galaxies, however it is obvious that only in tidal tails of interacting Spirals these “hidden” GABHs show up as “Tidal Dwarf Elliptical Galaxies” , see: the Stephans Quintet and NGC 4038.. See: http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~jhibbard/TDG/AAS198hibbard.pdf\

    Dark Matter extended Halo structure of Spiral Galaxies, the origin of Lensed Einstein Crosses.

    If we accept that the smallest Black Holes are concentrated in the center of Galaxies and the bigger Black Holes are concentrated inside axial “Trees” of outer Halos, then the peculiar Lensed Einstein Crosse could be explained in a more logical way, by proposing that Einstein Crosses are originated by the Cross like (Dark) Matter structure showing up if we look at Spiral Galaxies EDGE ON!.
    The Massive GABHs located along the extended axis of the Galaxy combined with the (Dark ) Matter distribution in the Disk and inner Halo form a clear structure in Cross Form if we look at it EDGE ON. Bradac et al. found these effects in MG0414+0534, see: http://www.astro.uni-bonn.de/~mbradac/Work/aah3340.pdf See also N. Dalal and C. Kochanec: This Galaxy is not seen EDGE ON, therefore these 4 images have two by two a different lensing distance by the different amounts of Dark matter in between them and show up as a trapezium. The symmetry axis of this trapezium should point in the same direction as the rotational axis of the Spiral Galaxy.
    http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/castles/Individual/MG0414.html http://universe.gsfc.nasa.gov/press/2002/020520a.html .

    see also: http://home.planet.nl/~vuyk0022/
  2. jcsd
  3. Oct 16, 2003 #2


    User Avatar

    By coincidence I just found this article supporting the existence of Dark "Knotty" Matter (which I coined : Galaxy Anchor Black Holes: GABHs) in the outer Halo of the Galaxy.

    Leo, see below:

    Astronomers find first 'dark galaxy'

    19:00 15 October 03

    Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition. Subscribe and get 4 free issues.

    Astronomers have found the first "dark galaxy" - a black cloud of hydrogen gas and exotic particles, devoid of stars. The gloomy galaxy lurks two million light years from Earth.

    The First Dark Galaxy? Simon et al

    Astronomy, University of California, Berkeley

    Arecibo Radio Telescope

    Dark Matter

    Joshua Simon, Timothy Robishaw and Leo Blitz of the University of California, Berkeley, observed a cloud of hydrogen gas called HVC 127-41-330 using the Arecibo radio telescope in Puerto Rico.

    It appears to be rotating so fast it would fall apart unless it contains a strong, hidden source of gravity. The researchers therefore argue that the cloud must be at least 80 per cent dark matter, the hypothetical invisible substance whose gravity is supposed to explain why many objects in the cosmos move as fast as they do.

    If they are right, this could resolve a problem in dark matter theory. In our local group of galaxies, we know of only about 35 dwarf galaxies, but simulations of galaxy formation using dark matter suggest there should be about 500.

    If most of these dwarfs are dark galaxies with no stars, that would explain why we have missed them until now. The reason HVC 127-41-330 and its kind are dark may be because they have too small. Without enough mass, their gravitational forces would be too weak to cram gas together densely enough to form any stars.

    Stephen Battersby
  4. Oct 16, 2003 #3


    User Avatar
    Gold Member

    may i ask for supporting evidence for the existence
    of, "phantom particles"?
    The EBH’s split their nuclei into two smaller EBH’s, which originate the branching or fractal process..
    please excuse my ignorance, how do black holes divide?

    In the middle of these drifted GABH’s there will be a so called WHITE HOLE as the nucleus of the first star, and later as the nucleus of the Galaxy or Galaxy cluster. The drifted GABH’s are supposed to be very efficient vacuum cleaners, they will sweep the newly formed gas atoms into the direction of the Whit Hole location by the so called Local A-Symmetrical Oscillating Vacuum Frame ( LASOF).
    it is my understandig that "white holes" are only hypothetic
    is there evidence for there existence?

    many thanks.
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2003
  5. Oct 16, 2003 #4

    Or it may be that the correct theory is that Blackholes create Stars and not the other way around?

    Early detection of Star production!..proto Galaxy!

    This is where my theory of Blackhole's are reponsible for creating, Stars, and thus Galaxies (all BH's are at Galactic core's).

    It will be seen that Stars evolve from BH's and not the other way around.
  6. Oct 16, 2003 #5


    User Avatar

    Dear Wolfram, Thank you for your quick reaction.

    You are asking a lot at once, I hope to give you hints in the right direction for clarity.
    Dont forget, we are talking here about a different paradigm for the Univers as a whole of multiple EPR correlated ANTI-COPY universes.
    There is different supporting evidence described in my model: see http://home.planet.nl/~vuyk0022/

    one of them is this, quote:

    So called mirage particles were last year found in elliptical quantum corrals, by dr. D. M. Eigler IBM (see: quantum mirage effect http://www.almaden.ibm.com/almaden/media/image_mirage.html )


    Black Holes are supposed to have a non singular nucleus, which is also described in my model.
    I use the word White Holes for a different phenomenon than common physics does.
    The peculiar habits of my new paradigm black holes are
    that they are "locked up"inside the oscillating Higgs-virgin particle
    vacuum spaceframe.
    Thus they are only able to move by special forces.
    However they Eat the vacuum space frame around them with the result that space in between two Black Holes changes dramatically.
    In the middle of thes two Black holes a what I call White hole emerges.

  7. Oct 16, 2003 #6


    User Avatar

    As Ranyart suggest,
    Indeed In between two Black Holes a star is able to form by the vacuum cleaning effect of the two black holes.
    This is supposed to be the mechanism in all Open star clusters, and the start of Early Galaxies seen in the deep field .
    Cygnus A is a nice example of a newborn STAR!!!and the GAS in between two black holes, I must admit that this is not the common explanation for Cygnus A.
    Look at it, how the two black holes repell masses of gas into the nuclear white hole regeon.

  8. Oct 16, 2003 #7

    Or it may be that the correct theory is that Blackholes create Stars and not the other way around?

    Early detection of Star production!..proto Galaxy!

    This is where my theory of Blackhole's are reponsible for creating, Stars, and thus Galaxies (all BH's are at Galactic core's).

    It will be seen that Stars evolve from BH's and not the other way around.
  9. Oct 19, 2003 #8


    User Avatar

    My model predict massless black hole nuclei and massless vacuum particles, which I do not describe as elements.
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook

Have something to add?

Similar Discussions: Dark Matter as primordial Black Holes in extended Halos