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Daytona 500 Winner: A Camry?

  1. Jan 30, 2007 #1

    Ivan Seeking

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    http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2835134&page=1

    The day had to come. As far as I'm concerned, on the average, Toyota has made a superior product for twenty years. Even as a kid, I remember noticing that Toyota's small pick-ups always seemed better made than the rest. If fact, somewhere I once heard that the 22R was the most successful [miles per engine] engine ever produced. Having owned one I can believe it.
     
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    Oh no, another country can make a product that doesn't stink? The world is going to end!

    Can't we stop with this "my region bounded by imaginary lines is better than your region bounded by imaginary lines" contest? We're all human beings, why would be surprised that someone in a different geological area would be able to produce a product better than those in another area?

    Honestly, I can't see the big deal in this.
     
  4. Jan 30, 2007 #3

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    Yes the toyota pick ups are renound.

    (Warning: Contains Australian language!)

    Can't say i'm a fan of NASCAR but surely some foreign influence is a good thing?
     
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  5. Jan 30, 2007 #4
    YES, that clip is a classic!!
     
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  6. Jan 30, 2007 #5
    That is the funniest thing I have seen all day. "Oh that'll buff out" haha

    I remember that first commercial they showed, I remember it being on tv a few years ago.
     
  7. Jan 30, 2007 #6

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    Is it in the youtube classics? I never have a look. Suppose I better from now on.
     
  8. Jan 30, 2007 #7
    I donno, im saying its a personal classic. I loved that clip the first time I saw it.
     
  9. Jan 30, 2007 #8

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    Oh right :biggrin: You gotta love top gear.
     
  10. Jan 31, 2007 #9

    Ivan Seeking

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    Just wait until a biodiesel powered Hyundai hybrid wins!!! :tongue2: :biggrin:
     
  11. Feb 4, 2007 #10
    That car is no more a camry than the chevy's and ford are production models. Full tube chassis, what looks like a ford v8. I think the only toyota parts are the gauges. Ever seen a camry with a pushrod v8 and a holly?

    Nascar hasnt been stock cars since the 60's

    http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z11176/default.aspx
     
  12. Feb 5, 2007 #11
    its good to see toyota upgrading to a v8 for a change... none of these v6's anymore! If toyota do win the 500, well good on them i dont think its too much of a problem... seeing as pontiac have dropped out now NASCAR needs another manufacturer... unless u plan on becoming like us Aussie's out here and having a two manufacturer series. makes for a great rivalry and draws the crowds :)
     
  13. Feb 5, 2007 #12

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    I was going to suggest Toyota enter a Diesel car and really shock the viewers. Then I saw Ivan's wonderful suggestion. Top notch! Upgrade to a V8? Why not upgrade to a well-thought out 4 cylinder Diesel and really make some headlines?! :smile:
     
  14. Feb 5, 2007 #13
    They should use gas turbine/jet engines, now that would be a laugh:devil: :smile:

    Cars travelling around a circuit at close to or above the speed of sound would be a little hazardous though, but hey what the hell :smile:
     
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  15. Feb 5, 2007 #14

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    I had that discussion with the two boneheads in the parts department at a local car dealership. One is a die-hard Ford fan and one is a die-hard Chevy fan, despite the fact that they worked in a Nissan dealership, and they were rabid NASCAR guys to the point that they had their favorite drivers' numbers on their vehicles, and kept little model cars on the parts counter. They would argue endlessly about how this race or that race "proved" that Ford or Chevy is the best car to own. Now they could sell both their cars and not afford to pay for the tires that one of their heroes would go through in a single race, and though they seemed aware that these machines bear no resemblance to their cars apart from the rough shape of the shell, they still insisted on making brand comparisons on the basis of race results. I hope that team Toyota wins, to give some of these guys something to think about.
     
  16. Feb 5, 2007 #15
    The best drivers are in rally or formula one(because the tracks involve many variables not just going round in circles) They retire once there reflexes start going to indie 500 :smile:

    But that's beside the point. Car manufacturers will always claim x is better but if you have Michael Schumacker in the car how much of that is due to his supreme skill, and how much due to the engine? Now if you take both into account you get an answer. Who has won the grand prix the most times? It's Williams, is this a combination of good drivers, Jaquez Villeneuve et al, or just blind luck, or the car or both?

    The point is Michael Shcumacker in his prime would of eaten any indie driver for breakfast, what was the combination? The best drivers get the best cars. Simple as that.
     
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    http://shrike.erc.msstate.edu/raspet/raspet/pages/burt.html

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    More pics at the link above
     
  18. Feb 6, 2007 #17
    I'm not sure what the point is here, the reason gas turbine engines aren't used is they are too dangerous, ie their speed is so great that it is impossible to safely control the car,even when you are just going round and round in circles, on a cicuit if you used not that car but a modern gas turbine engine car with say a top speed of 240 mph, on average you'd win more than you lost, jet engines are far more reliable than combustion engines anyway.
     
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  19. Feb 6, 2007 #18

    Ivan Seeking

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    The point? Do you mean my point or theirs? I was just pointing out that what you suggested has already been done.
     
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    Oh my mistake, my apologies, I misconstrued your intent.
     
  21. Feb 6, 2007 #20

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    Even before that, Chrysler was experimenting with turbine powered cars - as early as 1960, and maybe as early as 1955.

    http://aardvark.co.nz/pjet/chrysler.shtml

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Turbine_Car

    http://www.turbinecar.com/history.htm

    http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1963/Turbine/Turbine2/index.htm

    There was a movie (The Lively Set (1964) starring James Darren, Doug McLure and Pamela Tiffin :tongue2:) in which the car was featured.
    Clips from the movie - http://www.imperialclub.com/Movies/Lively/index.htm
     
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