Solving the De Broglie Problem: Calculating Length of a 1-D Box

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In summary, the length of a one-dimensional box in which an electron in the n=1 state has the same energy as a photon with a wavelength of 500 nm is incorrect and should be \sqrt{\frac{\pi\hbar\lambda}{4mc}}. The correct formula for the energy of the first state of an indefinite one-dimensional box is E=\frac{\pi^{2}\hbar^{2}}{2mL^{2}}.
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Homework Statement


What is the length of a one-dimensional box in which an electron in the n=1 state has the same energy as a photon with a wavelength of 500 nm


Homework Equations




E=h^2/8mL^2 and E=hc/lambda

making it
L=sqrt( (h*lambda)/(8cm) )


The Attempt at a Solution



I plugged in for those numbers and did not come out with the correct number. any suggestions?
 
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Are you sure that 8 should not be a 4?
 
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The eightfold way is right here. 1/8=(L/2)^/2.
I think your first h should be hbar.
 
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Hey
The energy if the first state of an indefinite one-dimensional box is:
[tex]E=\frac{\pi^{2}\hbar^{2}}{2mL^{2}}[/tex]
Where m is the mass of the particle and L is the length of the box.
The photon has the energy given by
[tex]E=\hbar\omega=\frac{2\pi\hbar{c}}{\lambda}[/tex]
Where [tex]\lambda[/tex] is the wave length.
And therefore the length L is [tex]L=\sqrt{\frac{\pi\hbar\lambda{c}}{4m}}[/tex]
 
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eys_physics said:
And therefore the length L is [tex]L=\sqrt{\frac{\pi\hbar\lambda{c}}{4m}}[/tex]

Which is wrong. It should be [tex]\sqrt{\frac{\pi\hbar\lambda}{4mc}[/tex], which is identical to what the OP psingh had written correctly. Replacing [itex]h[/itex] by [itex]2\pi\hbar[/itex] won't do any good.

Perhaps the OP made some arithmetical mistake...
 

1. What is the De Broglie equation and how is it used to solve the 1-D box problem?

The De Broglie equation, also known as the de Broglie wavelength equation, relates the wavelength of a particle to its momentum. It is used to solve the 1-D box problem by calculating the wavelength of a particle confined within a 1-dimensional box.

2. Why is the 1-D box problem important in quantum mechanics?

The 1-D box problem is important in quantum mechanics because it allows us to understand the behavior of particles in confined spaces. It also helps us understand the wave-particle duality of particles, where they exhibit both wave-like and particle-like behavior.

3. How do you calculate the length of a 1-D box using the De Broglie equation?

The length of a 1-D box can be calculated using the De Broglie equation, which states that the wavelength of a particle is equal to Planck's constant divided by the particle's momentum. By solving for the momentum and substituting it into the equation for kinetic energy, the length of the box can be determined.

4. What are the assumptions made in solving the 1-D box problem using the De Broglie equation?

One of the main assumptions is that the potential energy of the particle is zero inside the box, meaning it is not affected by any external forces. Additionally, the walls of the box are assumed to be perfectly reflecting, meaning the particle cannot escape the box.

5. Can the De Broglie equation be applied to particles other than electrons?

Yes, the De Broglie equation can be applied to any type of particle, including protons, neutrons, and even larger particles like atoms and molecules. However, it is most commonly used for particles with very small masses, such as electrons, due to their quantum nature.

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