De-Broglie's Fictitious wave

In summary, the conversation revolved around DeBroglie's original paper and a modern explanation of it. The main focus was on the contradiction between two equations, v' = v SQRT (1-Beta^2) and v' = v / [SQRT (1-Beta^2)], which DeBroglie resolves by introducing a fictitious wave associated with the particle. The speaker expressed difficulty understanding this concept and suggested studying quantum mechanics from a book like Ballentine instead.
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I read through DeBroglie's original paper - and also a modern explanation on the same (attached).
The first contradiction that DeBroglie arrives at is simple enough - he considers the 'wave-particle' as observed from a stationary frame - and from a moving frame. The 'inner frequency' of the wave-particle is
v' = v SQRT (1-Beta^2) Equation (1)
Now, he looks at the Energy transformation - and arrives at - v' = v / [SQRT (1-Beta^2)]. equation (2)

(1) and (2) are different - that is plain to see. To explain this difference, de-Broglie assumes ANOTHER fictitious wave associated with the particle. This is the part I am having trouble with - can anyone shed light on this second wave - and how it resolves the dilemma?

Page 2 in the attached article discusses this fully.
 

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What can one say - De Broglie is a crock.

Forget about it - study QM from a book like Ballentine.

Thanks
Bill
 

What is De-Broglie's Fictitious wave?

De-Broglie's Fictitious wave is a theoretical concept proposed by physicist Louis de Broglie in the 1920s. It suggests that all particles, including those without mass like photons, have a wave-like nature and can exhibit wave-particle duality.

What is the significance of De-Broglie's Fictitious wave?

De-Broglie's Fictitious wave is significant because it helped to explain the wave-particle duality of matter and revolutionized our understanding of the behavior of particles at the microscopic level. It also laid the foundation for the development of quantum mechanics.

How does De-Broglie's Fictitious wave relate to the Schrödinger equation?

The Schrödinger equation is a mathematical representation of De-Broglie's Fictitious wave. It describes the evolution of a quantum system over time and allows for the calculation of probabilities of a particle's position and momentum.

Can De-Broglie's Fictitious wave be observed?

No, De-Broglie's Fictitious wave cannot be directly observed as it is a mathematical concept. However, its effects can be observed in experiments, such as the double-slit experiment, which demonstrate the wave-like behavior of particles.

How has De-Broglie's Fictitious wave impacted modern physics?

The concept of De-Broglie's Fictitious wave has had a significant impact on modern physics. It helped to unify the theories of wave and particle behavior at the microscopic level and laid the foundation for quantum mechanics, which has led to many technological advancements and a deeper understanding of the fundamental nature of matter.

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