How do I find the definite integral in a changed coordinate system?

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In summary, the conversation discusses finding integrals in the perspective of the y-axis and x-axis, using an exponential function to solve for Y, and integrating the function y=sqrt(ln4-lnx) between y=1 and y=2. The final solution is approximately 0.995121 and was achieved through manual calculation.
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in all seriousness because of the hurricanes in florida i did not get to learn about finding integrals in the Y perspective. given that this is my question.

let R be the region in the first quadrant bounded by x=0,y=1,y=2, and
y= 4e^(-x^2). to my knowledge the integral needs to be set up so that we change perspectives make the y-axis the x-axis and the x-axis the y axis. so we cut the graph with an arbitray "horizantol" line. so this gives us the integral from x=1 to x=2 (former y values). here is my problem the first horizontal line that Y touches is Y=0 (former x value) and y = 4e^(-x^2). now since we changed our coordinate system don't we need to change the exponeltial function thus x=4e^(-y^2) and solve for Y?
 
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Not really,u need to find
[tex] y^{-1}(x) [/tex]

Daniel.

If you don't like it,then how about
[tex] y(x_{1})=1 [/tex]

[tex] y(x_{2})=2 [/tex]

The solutions will be your new integration limits...
 
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isn't [tex] y^{-1}(x) [/tex] the same thing as x=4e^(-y^2) and solve for Y? is this not the inverse of Y also
 
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Find x=x(y) and integrate between y_{1}=1 & y_{2}=2...

Daniel.
 
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so is y=sqrt(ln4-lnx) my function to integrate?
 
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Yes,it looks ugly,since it involves the function "erf"... :yuck:

Daniel.

P.S.Really ugly indeed...
 
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man that looks so ugly and WRONG i hope this is correct. so what i have now is this
integral from 1 to 2 of sqrt(ln4-lnx). this is the area you say
 
  • #8
Yes,try to integrate:
[tex] \int_{1}^{2} \sqrt{\ln 4 -\ln x} \ dx [/tex]

Daniel.
 
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thank you. i'll try that
 
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i used my calculator and got an are of approx 0.995121: this seems very small
 
  • #11
I would't know what the final outcome would be,simply because it's pretty difficult to get...
Try to do it by hand,though.

Daniel.
 
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i got it, the above is the correct solution. thank you
 

What is a definite integral?

A definite integral is a mathematical concept used to find the area under a curve on a specific interval. It is represented by the symbol ∫ and has a lower limit and upper limit, which determine the interval of integration.

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