If it's dried up, slimy with rot, or turned brown, it's probably safe to call it "dead." Cutting the plant from the roots and removing it from water might be similar to stopping circulation in animals, but as you know if you stick the cut end in water quickly enough, it will continue living for much longer.Ahh, so then it's how I suspected it was. The moment of "death" for a plant, at the organism level, can't really be determined as easily as for animals.
Yep, interesting stuff...thanks for the replies.
I think you're right about the vegan reasoning for recommending to eat only living plants. The vegans would probably say something non-scientific like "living foods have more life force" as opposed to the nuts and bolts description of how plants decay after being harvested though.One thought that comes to mind is whether this concern arises from the need to eat vegetables while they are fresh enough to have good vitamin content? Once you harvest the plants, they start losing nutrients ...Though, even for animals, death at a cellular level is more gradual too. We just have a definition for clinical death, but that doesn't mean that all organ systems have already died, or else there would be no possibility for organ transplants to work.
How about this ?--we apply to all organisms (plant, animal, microbe, etc.). Death is the moment when the collective selfish genes of the organism lose ability to transfer information over time (hopefully not too philosophical).What definition is used to determine the moment of death for a plant as an organism?
By your definition someone is dead when they have taken a sterilization or vasectomy procedure.How about this ?--we apply to all organisms (plant, animal, microbe, etc.). Death is the moment when the collective selfish genes of the organism lose ability to transfer information over time (hopefully not too philosophical).
So plants die at night?Final end of all the processes involving the photosyntesis?
No, the "collective selfish genes" (sensu Dawkins), not the gametes--think stem cells. A single somatic cell of my body maintains the ability to transfer information over time no matter what you do to my gametes --until such time that I reach a state called "lack of life" = "non ability of collective selfish genes to transfer information" = "death".By your definition someone is dead when they have taken a sterilization or vasectomy procedure.