Degree of Extension: n Primes to Q

In summary, the conversation discusses the proof that the degree of the extension [\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{p_1},\sqrt{p_2},...,\sqrt{p_n} ) : \mathbb{Q}]= 2^n using induction and proving the irreducibility of a certain polynomial in an extension of Q. The conversation also mentions the use of Kummer Theory and an "elementary" solution. The final step of the proof involves showing that there is no element in \mathbb{Q}[\sqrt{p_1},...,\sqrt{p_n}] whose square is p_{n+1}. This can be done by expressing elements in \mathbb{Q}[\sqrt{
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Let [tex]p_1,p_2,...,p_n[/tex] be distinct primes.
Show that [tex][\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{p_1},\sqrt{p_2},...,\sqrt{p_n} ) : \mathbb{Q}]= 2^n[/tex]
 
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What have you tried? It's obvious you should use induction, and then the tricky part becomes proving the irreducibility of a certain polynomial in an extension of Q. Have you gotten this far yet?
 
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What have you tried? It's obvious you should use induction, and then the tricky part becomes proving the irreducibility of a certain polynomial in an extension of Q. Have you gotten this far yet?

Yes. I tried induction of course.

Note that, [tex][\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{p_1},...,\sqrt{p_{n+1}}): \mathbb{Q}] = [\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{p_1},...,\sqrt{p_{n+1}})]:\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{p_1},...,\sqrt{p_n})]\cdot [\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{p_1},...,\sqrt{p_n}):\mathbb{Q}] = [\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{p_1},...,\sqrt{p_{n+1}})]:\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{p_1},...,\sqrt{p_n})] \cdot 2^n[/tex]

So it remains to show,
[tex][\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{p_1},...,\sqrt{p_{n+1}})]:\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{p_1},...,\sqrt{p_n})] = 2[/tex]

Which can be shown if,
[tex]\mbox{deg}(\sqrt{p_{n+1}},\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{p_1},...,\sqrt{p_n}))=2[/tex]

But the difficult step is the last step. I was reading about this problem and it was solved with "Kummer Theory" but I tried to find my own "elementary" solution.
 
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You know [itex]\sqrt{p_{n+1}}[/itex] is a root of [itex]x^2-p_{n+1}[/itex], so generates an extension of at most degree 2 over any extension of Q. It will generate an extension of degree 2 iff it is not in the original extension. In other words, you need to show there's no element in [itex]\mathbb{Q}[\sqrt{p_1},...,\sqrt{p_n}][/itex] whose square is [itex]p_{n+1}[/itex]. One way to do this is to note (by induction) that every element in [itex]\mathbb{Q}[\sqrt{p_1},...,\sqrt{p_n}][/itex] can be written in the form [itex]\alpha + \beta \sqrt{p_n}[/itex] for some [itex]\alpha,\beta \in \mathbb{Q}[\sqrt{p_1},...,\sqrt{p_{n-1}}][/itex], then square this and find conditions on [itex]\alpha[/itex] and [itex]\beta[/itex].
 
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Yes you are correct, it is really not that bad to proof.
 

What is the degree of extension?

The degree of extension refers to the number of primes (n) that are required to generate the field of rational numbers (Q). It is denoted by [Q:n] and represents the number of distinct prime factors in the denominator of a rational number.

How is the degree of extension calculated?

To calculate the degree of extension, we can use the formula [Q:n] = p1p2...pn, where p1, p2, ..., pn are the distinct prime factors of the denominator of a rational number. For example, the rational number 3/4 has a degree of extension of 2, since the denominator (4) has 2 distinct prime factors (2 and 2).

What is the significance of the degree of extension in mathematics?

The degree of extension is an important concept in number theory and abstract algebra. It helps us understand the structure of fields and their subfields, and plays a crucial role in the study of algebraic number theory and Galois theory.

Can the degree of extension be greater than or equal to infinity?

No, the degree of extension is always a finite number. This is because any rational number can be expressed as a fraction with a finite number of prime factors in the denominator, and therefore the degree of extension cannot be greater than the number of distinct prime factors.

What are some practical applications of the degree of extension?

The concept of degree of extension has applications in cryptography, specifically in the generation of public and private keys for secure communication. It is also used in coding theory for error correction in data transmission. In addition, it has applications in number theory, algebraic geometry, and other fields of mathematics.

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