# Delta-Epsilon Arguments

1. Dec 15, 2013

### jojo13

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

For the given limit and the given ε, find the largest value of δ that will guarantee the conclusion of the statement.

f(x)=8x+15, ε=1, lim f(x) = 95
x→10

2. Relevant equations

So the statement that is on the worksheet says:

Let L be a real number and let f be a function defined on an open interval containing c, but not necessarily defined at c.

the statement lim f(x) = L means that for all ε > 0, there exists δ > 0 such that if 0 < |x-c| < δ then |f(x) - L| < ε
....................x→c

3. The attempt at a solution

This is what I got and I not even sure it's correct.

|(8x+15) - 95| < 1
|8x - 80| < 1

now what?

2. Dec 15, 2013

### Dick

Well, that's an ok start. What's supposed to be less than δ for that to be true?

3. Dec 15, 2013

### jojo13

Do I solve the equation?

So 8x < 81

x < 81/8

4. Dec 15, 2013

### Dick

No, that's not right. You want |8x - 80| < 1 whenever |x-10|<δ. What's the largest value of δ you can choose that will make that work?

5. Dec 15, 2013

### jojo13

I can not wrap my mind around this. Would it be 10?

6. Dec 15, 2013

### Dick

No, you may be a little shakey on how to work with absolute value. If |x-10|<10 then the solution to that is all numbers 0<x<20. Do you see why? All of those values of x don't work with |8x-80|<1, do they? x=10 works. x=11 doesn't work. Which values of x do work? Think about this a little more. Maybe something will click.

7. Dec 15, 2013

### jojo13

If |x-10|< .125 then the solutions would be from 0<x<10.125 and that works?

8. Dec 15, 2013

### Dick

That's real progress! The solutions are actually 10-0.125<x<10+0.125. But you've got it. How did you get 0.125?

9. Dec 15, 2013

### jojo13

Solved |8x - 80| < 1. and that is 10.125. Put 10.125 into |x-10| < δ.

So the largest value of δ that would guarantee the problem would be 10.125?

10. Dec 15, 2013

### Dick

You said |x-10|<0.125. Doesn't that make δ=0.125? Look at your limit definition. And you are still being a little sloppy on the absolute value solutions. You solved 8x-80=1, that's really only a part of solving |8x-80|<1. Review absolute value inequalities, ok? |x-a|<b means a-b<x<a+b. It means the distance between x and a is less than b. Here's another way to go once you've got the absolute value stuff. |8x-80|=8|x-10|. Agree? So if |8x-80|<1 and |x-10|<δ what's the largest value of δ that will work?