News Depressed - how about you?

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:rofl: What an entirely predictable response. Of course, anyone who is silly enough to worry about the state of the world at the moment is a 'fruitcake'. Let's just keep those old blinkers on, kat - how does that song go? Oh yes, "Don't worry... Be happy..." :smile:
Lol, you're rather obtuse aren't you?
Maybe it's just your news source.

http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&artnum=3 [Broken]

Public Opinion: Other than why the long and short ends of the yield curve can't get along, the biggest mystery surrounding the economy seems be why the average citizen is so unimpressed with it.

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Still another reason may be the way the media deliver the message. Is public confidence, in other words, affected by the spin (let's be blunt about it) that news outlets put on the information they disseminate?

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Not surprisingly, listeners to talk radio were by far the most positive, especially about the leadership that President Bush is providing and the direction in which he's taking the country. But then, talk radio is a haven for conservatives who have fled "mainstream" media they view as too liberal and too negative.

In fact, when we combined the six categories to determine an overall "National Outlook" index, and then broke that down by demographic group, Republicans registered a very upbeat 63.5 this month while Democrats came in at a dismal 35.7.

Also not surprisingly, those who depend most on two bastions of the mainstream media — newspapers and news magazines — had the most bearish readings.

Most of the country's major metropolitan newspapers, including The New York Times, Washington Post and Los Angeles Times, are considered liberal. So are the two leading news magazines, Time and Newsweek.

Viewers of cable TV were more positive than those who rely on network news. This probably reflects the influence of the top-rated Fox News Channel, another destination for conservatives put off by the left-leaning sameness of CBS, NBC and ABC.

So, yes, there appears to be a connection between where people get their information and how they feel about it.

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Ah, thanks for the compliment, Lisa!
I just said what I really felt about you. :smile:



I especially like how when you ask a question and it is not answered clearly, you keep pressing for clarification; that's excellent :approve:
I hope those who have to answer my question, don't get angry at me too much. :wink:
 
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kat said:
Lol, you're rather obtuse aren't you?
Stop being tiresome and childish, kat. I would appreciate it if you did not call me names like 'a fruitcake' and 'obtuse'. Those are personal insults, and according to the rules of these forums you are not meant to insult people like this. Yes, believe it or not: I am a person, and I have feelings (just like everyone else in these discussions - including you). I don't mean to be rude, but I would really like you to stop insulting me, ok?

Maybe it's just your news source.
I don't watch cable TV at all. I don't live in the US and I certainly don't pay subscriptions for Fox or any other kind of propaganda. My news sources tend to be in-depth analytical articles written by people who invest a lot of time and effort into researching their topics. I agree with the statement in the article you quoted that current affairs radio programmes are more informative than television, and I listen to a lot of those as well - in-depth analytical programs on the national publicly funded independent (sort of) station in Australia. There does seem to be a major difference between our radio in Australia and the radio referred to in the article you quoted, though - ours tends to adopt more of a critical perspective, it seems.
 
hey,

I was incredibly depressed last november - and it hung on for quite a while, but as democrats started to show a small backbone (standing against the electoral vote, opposing Bolton, there were other stands...) I started to feel less pessimistic.

Having Bush on vacation has felt like a vacation for me, too - heheh - the headlines have to do with the weather and whatnot instead of Bush and that's nice. He should extend his vacation. The world seems to be going along just fine while he's on his boat with his security guys and whatnot.

His approval ratings are the lowest of his Residency (he sank to 40% in a recent NYT poll, +/- 3%). He is vying for the worst approval of any second termer in history.

Sheehan is starting something - a dialog, a shift; even if it's more polarisation, which we none of us really think is good, perhaps it will create enough tension to get us somewhere better. It certainly makes it harder to wage additional wars.

So, no, I would have to say that I am less depressed than I had been. I think given the sinking approvals all around, the 2006 elections will see some shake-up. Maybe democrats will retake something ---

Of course, it doesn't matter if the machines are fixing the votes. But at least bush doesn't have a "wide berth" as he did first term.
 
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Hello all

Well, for the past few weeks I have been getting well and truly sloshed. Red wine. I just can't stand it any more - and was just interested in finding out if anyone else feels like there seems to be very little hope left. The 'right' seems to have won, hands-down. Fukuyama ('The End of History') seems to be correct. Humanity has lost. Oh, well. Drink wine while the nukes haven't fallen yet:-) No, seriously - I give up. Let Bush and company do their thing. There are enough uncritical followers in the world for them to destroy it without qualms now. Good luck, world:-) I no longer care...
When I feel depressed I look out at the world and realize it is so big and I am so insignificant, that being depressed is act of self indulgence.

What makes me so important?

I realize that all I have in life are my thoughts and my actions, those are the only things in life that are truly and uniquely mine. So in the final analysis my only purpose in life is to perfect my thoughts and act accordingly.

Live my life like I believe I should and don't sweat the small stuff. And next to eternity/infinity, everything else is small stuff!
 
alexandra said:
There does seem to be a major difference between our radio in Australia and the radio referred to in the article you quoted, though - ours tends to adopt more of a critical perspective, it seems.
I didn't realize you were in Australia. I have definitely seen some disturbing things coming out of Australia lately. I can't recall them specifically, something about troops, and something else.....
 
Pengwuino:

glad you aren't depressed. But as far as coffee and depression goes, studies show that the risk of suicide among coffee drinkers is one third less than among non-caffeine drinkers.

your hypothesis doesn't fit with the reported evidence.

Still, good on you for being non-depressed.
 
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kat said:
Lol, you're rather obtuse aren't you?
Maybe it's just your news source.

http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&artnum=3 [Broken]
Let's all just pretend that everything is OK.
 
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I didn't realize you were in Australia. I have definitely seen some disturbing things coming out of Australia lately. I can't recall them specifically, something about troops, and something else.....
Kangaroos? :confused:
 
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Kangaroos? :confused:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Thanks, arildno - I really needed that laugh! You know, though, I haven't seen that many (mostly I've seen dead kangaroos along the side of the road).

To get back to your observation re-Australia, pattylou - yes, there has been some pretty disturbing developments out this way (so many I don't know where to start). Something that may have been in US news is that the Australian government has decided to send more troops to Afghanistan. I believe Australia doesn't get much coverage in the US, though, so I don't know whether you'll be aware of any of the other politics happening here. Like in the US, our version of the Republican Party (called the Liberal Party) now controls both our houses of parliament (the lower house - called the House of Representatives, and the upper house, the Senate). This means they are passing all sorts of anti-people legislation without opposition (not that our 'opposition' party, nominally the Labor Party, is any different to so-called 'labour' parties around the world anyway). And then there's all sorts of stuff about uranium mining, labour legislation, increasing student fees at unis... heaps of changes that are radically and very quickly changing the structure of Australian society... Sorry, I don't want to bore you with too much detail - these are just very sketchy details, in case you're interested.
 
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Skyhunter said:
When I feel depressed I look out at the world and realize it is so big and I am so insignificant, that being depressed is act of self indulgence.

What makes me so important?

I realize that all I have in life are my thoughts and my actions, those are the only things in life that are truly and uniquely mine. So in the final analysis my only purpose in life is to perfect my thoughts and act accordingly.

Live my life like I believe I should and don't sweat the small stuff. And next to eternity/infinity, everything else is small stuff!
I agree, Skyhunter :blushing: I should remember to look at the stars more often. That does work for me - I just forgot, or maybe I had to allow myself to get really involved and go through the feelings instead of avoiding them. But it's not good to stay in that space for too long.
 

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Skyhunter said:
When I feel depressed I look out at the world and realize it is so big and I am so insignificant, that being depressed is act of self indulgence.
Well what usually makes me depressed is that the world is too big and I'm too little to be able to do something for this world. I don't know why people can't be tolerant of each other. Why don't they let each other to live in a way they like? Why do even some of us try to make others happy in a way that don't make them happy?
 
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There sure isn't much happening in the world that is uplifting recently.

Through the years I have found that maintaining ones emotional balance is a lot like riding a bicycle. It is a whole lot easier if you keep moving.

Jump out of that rut girl. You can do it. :rofl: :smile: :rofl:
 
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alexandra said:
You know, though, I haven't seen that many (mostly I've seen dead kangaroos along the side of the road)..
And that's how you repay me, those poor kangaroos.. :cry: :cry: :cry:
Oh well, perhaps I've gotten into the right mood for actually reading this thread now. :frown:
 
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There sure isn't much happening in the world that is uplifting recently.

Through the years I have found that maintaining ones emotional balance is a lot like riding a bicycle. It is a whole lot easier if you keep moving.

Jump out of that rut girl. You can do it.
Keep moving - yes, I like this advice too; I don't do enough of that. I think I did allow myself to get into a rut. Oh, how important these online communities are... thanks, edward :smile:
 

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Pengwuino:glad you aren't depressed. But as far as coffee and depression goes, studies show that the risk of suicide among coffee drinkers is one third less than among non-caffeine drinkers.
Actually coffee and cigarettes are the predominant sources responsible for depression. This is tottaly independent of suicide.
 

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Lisa! said:
Well what usually makes me depressed is that the world is too big and I'm too little to be able to do something for this world.
That's in fact what makes me extremely happy ! Imagine I COULD do something in this world! What a mess I'd make of it. When I look at the mess on my desk, this is an indication :biggrin:
 

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That's in fact what makes me extremely happy ! Imagine I COULD do something in this world! What a mess I'd make of it. When I look at the mess on my desk, this is an indication :biggrin:
:rofl: Do you really like ants? Are you really working with them?
 

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:rofl: Do you really like ants? Are you really working with them?
Yikes !

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Yikes !

:surprised
Good! I would get angry if you wrote Yikes!!
 

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Lisa! said:
Good! I would get angry if you wrote Yikes!!
Ah, so YOU like ants ?
 
DM said:
Actually coffee and cigarettes are the predominant sources responsible for depression. This is tottaly independent of suicide.
Can you cite a source for me on that?

Thanks in advance!
 

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pattylou said:
Can you cite a source for me on that?

Thanks in advance!
Yes, I see your point on this. You'd like to see some credibility. The truth is I haven't got any sources to prove my 'claim'. However, two years ago I have had a depression that lasted for a whole year. The first two questions that my psychiatrist asked me was if I drank coffee and if I smoked. Curiously after answering, I sure enough asked why he questioned me on those two sources. As you might guess by now, his answer was that coffee and cigarettes were closely associated with depression cases, alcohol is another consumption source that he indicated that could influence a depression. Just for the record, I did use to drink coffee and smoke. Now whether this may or may not apply on all cases, I truly would not know that. What I do know is that part of my depression was caused by the consumption of coffee and cigarettes.
 
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There are many times I half to turn my back on world news. It becomes over whelming, and makes me feel helpless.
Then I go and do some work with people who are really helpless, and it puts me back into perspective. I quit my moaning :cry: and complaining and get on with life.
 

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How many people here actually lead a bad life? I never watch the news and I never will; all they do is report everything bad that is happening, and everything bad that might happen. They give you the impression that the world is a terrible cesspool full of rapists and natural disasters, a Brother's Grimm world where no one will venture into the woods because of what may lurk.

I agree with Skyhunter that being depressed is self-indulgent for those of us who have it so well. I try to live my life by keeping myself and those around me happy. It seems to me that if everyone did the same, we could collectively achieve far more than any righteous self-sacrificing crusader.
 

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