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In summary: Thanks for your help!In summary, the function f(x)=x^k * e^-x, where k>1 and natural, has a min or inflection point depending on the parity of k. This is proven by analyzing the second derivative and finding that it changes sign only when k is odd. Additionally, the second derivative will also be 0 at other points such as x= k +/- √k.
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f(x)=x^k * e^-x
where k>1 and natural.
analyse how the coordinates of max, min and * depends on k.
Proove that your conclusion holds for any natural k, larger than 1.

*I'm not fluent in english, so I don't know the word, but it is what is called in (0,0) on for example the curve x^3 (i.e. the derivative is positive, zero, then positive or neg, zero, neg)

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I've solved almost everything, except:
why has f(x) an * if k is odd and a min if k is even?
 
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I suspect your "*" represents "inflection point" where the second derivative changes sign- which, of course , can only occur where the second derivative is 0.

The derivative of f is
[tex]f'= kx^{k-1}e^{-x}- x^ke^{-x}= (k- x)x^{k-1}e^{-x}[/tex]
and the second derivative is
[tex]f''= k(k-1)x^{k-2}e^{-x}- 2kx^{k-1}e^{-x}+ x^ke^{-x}= (k(k-1)- 2kx+ x^2)x^{k-2}e^{-k}[/tex]

Now that exponential, [itex]e^{-k}[/itex] is never 0 so the second derivative is 0 only where [itex](x^2- 2kx+ k(k-1))x^{k-2}= ((x- k)^2- k)x^{k-2}= 0[/itex]. Obviously that second derivative is 0 at x= 0 but to determine whether or not it changes sign at x= 0, we have to look at [itex]x^{k-2}[/itex]. If k is even, k-2 is also and [itex]x^{k-2}[/itex] is positive on both sides of x= 0: the second derivative does not change sign so 0 is NOT a inflection point. If k is odd, k- 2 is also and [itex]x^{k-2}[/itex] is positive for x> 0 and negative for x< 0: the second derivative changes sign so 0 is an inflection point.

By the way, the second derivative will also be 0 at [itex]x= k\pm\sqrt{k}[/itex] so there can be other inflection points.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
I suspect your "*" represents "inflection point" where the second derivative changes sign- which, of course , can only occur where the second derivative is 0.

The derivative of f is
[tex]f'= kx^{k-1}e^{-x}- x^ke^{-x}= (k- x)x^{k-1}e^{-x}[/tex]
and the second derivative is
[tex]f''= k(k-1)x^{k-2}e^{-x}- 2kx^{k-1}e^{-x}+ x^ke^{-x}= (k(k-1)- 2kx+ x^2)x^{k-2}e^{-k}[/tex]

Now that exponential, [itex]e^{-k}[/itex] is never 0 so the second derivative is 0 only where [itex](x^2- 2kx+ k(k-1))x^{k-2}= ((x- k)^2- k)x^{k-2}= 0[/itex]. Obviously that second derivative is 0 at x= 0 but to determine whether or not it changes sign at x= 0, we have to look at [itex]x^{k-2}[/itex]. If k is even, k-2 is also and [itex]x^{k-2}[/itex] is positive on both sides of x= 0: the second derivative does not change sign so 0 is NOT a inflection point. If k is odd, k- 2 is also and [itex]x^{k-2}[/itex] is positive for x> 0 and negative for x< 0: the second derivative changes sign so 0 is an inflection point.

By the way, the second derivative will also be 0 at [itex]x= k\pm\sqrt{k}[/itex] so there can be other inflection points.

Thanks! However, I solved it and it looks like we have similar solutions (great).
 

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Derivation is the process of finding the derivative of a function, which represents the rate of change of that function at a specific point.

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