Derivation of current density in quantum mechanics

In summary: J}=\frac{\hbar}{2mi}\left[\psi^*\nabla\psi-\psi\nabla\psi^*\right] =(this is the complex vector) = \mbox{Im}\left[\psi^*\nabla\psi\right] = \mbox{Re}\left[\psi^* \frac{\hbar}{im} \vec\nabla \psi\right] = \frac{\hbar}{m}\mbox{Im}\left[\psi^*\nabla\psi\right] = \frac{\hbar}{m}\left(\psi^*\vec\nabla\psi-\psi\vec\n
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I read some derivations of current density from the quantum equations of motion (like Scrödinger's and Klein-Gordon's). They derive an equation with the same form as continuity equation:

div(A)+dB/dt=0

Then they conclude that A=current density and B=density.

However there are non-zero vector fields that have zero divergence, so we could add any of them to A and the continuity equation would still be true. How can we know that A is the true expression for current density?
 
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You don't really. In the case of Schroedinger, you can treat it as a classical complex field and apply Lagrangian methods. The field, being complex, has global phase symmetry, which by Noether's theorem identifies a pair of charge and currents. The charge is of the form [tex]\psi^* \psi[/tex] which we postulated is the probability density over position, and so we identify the current identified as the probability current.
 
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Lojzek said:
I read some derivations of current density from the quantum equations of motion (like Scrödinger's and Klein-Gordon's). They derive an equation with the same form as continuity equation:

div(A)+dB/dt=0

Then they conclude that A=current density and B=density.

However there are non-zero vector fields that have zero divergence, so we could add any of them to A and the continuity equation would still be true. How can we know that A is the true expression for current density?

The Lagrangian treatment is done here: http://www.physics.thetangentbundle.net/wiki/Quantum_mechanics/Lagrangian_formulation

To answer your question, one normally derives the continuity equation from saying [tex]\mathbf{J}[/tex] is a current density and [tex]\rho[/tex] is a density, and then from using flux arguments. So when you derive an equation like [tex]\boldsymbol\nabla\cdot\mathbf{J} + \tfrac{\partial\rho}{\partial t} = 0[/tex], you simply recognize it as the continuity equation and make the identification.

Note, the continuity equation isn't a constitutive equation. For example, in the heat equation, the continuity equation must be supplemented by [tex]\mathbf{J} \propto \boldsymbol\nabla T[/tex]. In the case of the wavefunction, your constitutive equation is the thing you derive from the S.E.:

[tex]\mathbf{J} = \frac{\hbar}{2mi}\left(\Psi^* \vec \nabla \Psi - \Psi \vec \nabla \Psi^*\right) = \frac\hbar m \mbox{Im}(\Psi^*\vec\nabla\Psi)=\mbox{Re}(\Psi^* \frac{\hbar}{im} \vec\nabla \Psi)[/tex]
 
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We have

[tex]\mathbf{\hat{p}}=m\mathbf{\hat{v}} \Leftrightarrow \mathbf{\hat{v}}=\frac{\mathbf{\hat{p}}}{m} = \frac{-i\hbar\mathbf{\nabla}}{m}=\frac{\hbar\mathbf{\nabla}}{im}[/tex]

and if we assume that the wave function is normalized, we will get the expectation value of the particle's velocity by

[tex]\left<\mathbf{\hat{v}}\right> = \left<\Psi\left|\mathbf{\hat{v}}\right|\Psi\right> = \left<\Psi\left|\frac{\hbar}{im}\mathbf{\nabla}\right|\Psi\right> = \int\limits_{}^{}\Psi^*\frac{\hbar}{im}\mathbf{\nabla}\Psi\, dV.[/tex]

where [tex]dV[/tex] is a small volume element. If we define

[tex]\mathbf{J_\mathbb{C}} = \Psi^*\frac{\hbar}{im}\mathbf{\nabla}\Psi[/tex]

so that

[tex]\mathbf{J} = \mbox{Re}(\mathbf{J_\mathbb{C}})[/tex]

we get the simple relation

[tex]\left<\mathbf{\hat{v}}\right> = \int\limits_{}^{}\mathbf{J_\mathbb{C}}\, dV.[/tex]

I think this is a fundamental property that you want to have.

Let's continue with looking at how the expectation value of the position changes with time. It is well known that the time derivative of the expectation value of a time-independent operator [tex]\hat{A}[/tex] easily can be obtained using the Hamiltonian, namely

[tex]\frac{d}{dt}\left<\hat{A}\right> = (i\hbar)^{-1}\left<\left[\hat{A},\,\hat{H}\right]\right>[/tex]

so in our case we have

[tex]\frac{d}{dt}\left<\hat{x}\right> = (i\hbar)^{-1}\left<\left[\hat{x},\,\hat{H}\right]\right> = (i\hbar)^{-1}\left<\left[\hat{x},\,\frac{\mathbf{\hat{p}}^2}{2m}+V(\mathbf{r},\,t)\right]\right>[/tex]

Since [tex]\hat{x}[/tex] commutes with [tex]V(\mathbf{r},t)[/tex] and also with [tex]\hat{p}_y[/tex] and [tex]\hat{p}_z[/tex], we have

[tex]\frac{d}{dt}\left<\hat{x}\right> = \frac{1}{2mi\hbar}\left<\left[\hat{x},\,\hat{p}_x^2}\right]\right> = \frac{1}{2mi\hbar}\left<\left[\hat{x},\,\hat{p}_x}\right]\hat{p}_x + \hat{p}_x\left[\hat{x},\,\hat{p}_x}\right]\right>[/tex]

We know that [tex]\left[\hat{x},\hat{p}_x\right]=i\hbar[/tex], so we get

[tex]\frac{d}{dt}\left<\hat{x}\right> = \frac{1}{2mi\hbar}\left<i\hbar\hat{p}_x + \hat{p}_x i\hbar\right> = \frac{\left<\hat{p}_x\right>}{m}[/tex]

Since we will get the same result with the expectation values of y and z, we obtain

[tex]\frac{d}{dt}\left<\mathbf{\hat{r}}\right> = \frac{\left<\mathbf{\hat{p}}\right>}{m} = \left<\mathbf{\hat{v}}\right>[/tex]

Using the result from above, we get

[tex]\frac{d}{dt}\left<\mathbf{\hat{r}}\right> = \int\limits_{}^{}\mathbf{J_\mathbb{C}}\, dV.[/tex]

Or, if we would so like

[tex]\frac{d}{dt}\left<\mathbf{\hat{r}}\right> = \left<\mathbf{\hat{v}}\right> = \int\limits_{}^{}\mathbf{J_\mathbb{C}}\, dV.[/tex]
 
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[tex]\mathbf{J} = \frac{\hbar}{2mi}\left(\Psi^* \vec \nabla \Psi - \Psi \vec \nabla \Psi^*\right) = \frac\hbar m \mbox{Im}(\Psi^*\vec\nabla\Psi)=\mbox{Re}(\Psi^* \frac{\hbar}{im} \vec\nabla \Psi)[/tex]

How can I show this?
 
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See post #3; just use the Lagrangian specified in http://www.physics.thetangentbundle.net/wiki/Quantum_mechanics/Lagrangian_formulation

From this you can derive
a) the S.E. by applying the Euler-Lagrange equations and
b) probability and current density by applying Noether's theorem for the global U(1) symmetry of the wave function
 
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My doubt is more basic. How do I show the equalities?
 
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please correct latex equation
 
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andremelzi said:
My doubt is more basic. How do I show the equalities?

If z is a complex number, then [tex]z=z_{1}+iz_{2}[/tex] and its complex conjugate is [tex]z^*=z_{1}-iz_{2}[/tex] Then it is easy to prove [tex]z+z^*=z_{1}+iz_{2}+z_{1}-iz_{2}=2z_{1}[/tex] and from this is is obvious that [tex]z_{1}=\mbox{Re}\left(z\right)=\frac{z+z^*}{2}[/tex]

Similarly, [tex]z_{2}=\mbox{Im}\left(z\right)=\frac{z-z^*}{2}[/tex]

Now consider a complex-valued function [tex]\psi[/tex] and some operator whose result is also complex valued: [tex]\hat{O}\psi[/tex]. Now let our complex number z be [tex]z=\psi^*\left(\hat{O}\psi\right)[/tex]. Then from the above identity, [tex]\frac{1}{2}\left[\psi^*\left(\hat{O}\psi\right)+\psi\left(\hat{O} \psi \right)^*\right]=\mbox{Re}\left[\psi^*\left(\hat{O}\psi\right)\right][/tex]

Now we substitute the general operator for the quantum mechanical momentum operator, [tex]\hat{O}=\frac{\hbar}{i}\nabla[/tex]

Then we find [tex]\hat{O}\psi=\frac{\hbar}{i}\nabla\psi[/tex] and [tex]\left(\hat{O}\psi\right)^*=-\frac{\hbar}{i}\nabla\psi^*[/tex]

Then it follows that [tex]\mbox{Re}\left[\psi^*\left(\hat{O}\psi\right)\right]=\mbox{Re}\left[\psi^*\frac{\hbar}{i}\nabla\psi\right]=\frac{1}{2}\left[\psi^*\frac{\hbar}{i}\nabla\psi-\psi\frac{\hbar}{i}\nabla\psi^*\right]=\frac{\hbar}{2i}\left[\psi^*\nabla\psi-\psi\nabla\psi^*\right][/tex]

Now if [tex]z=\left(\psi^*\nabla\psi\right)[/tex]

then [tex]z^*=\psi\nabla\psi^*[/tex]

So we get the second identity (which has a typo in the previous post): [tex]\frac{\hbar}{im}\mbox{Im}\left[\psi^*\nabla\psi\right]=\frac{\hbar}{2mi}\left[\psi^*\nabla\psi-\psi\nabla\psi^*\right][/tex]

Put it all together and you get the equality
[tex]\frac{\hbar}{2mi}\left[\psi^*\nabla\psi-\psi\nabla\psi^*\right]=\frac{\hbar}{im}\mbox{Im}\left[\psi^*\nabla\psi\right]=\mbox{Re}\left[\psi^*\frac{\hbar}{im}\nabla\psi\right][/tex]
 
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1. What is current density in quantum mechanics?

In quantum mechanics, current density is a measure of the flow of electric charge per unit time and per unit area. It is described by the probability amplitude of the charged particles in a given region of space.

2. How is current density derived in quantum mechanics?

The derivation of current density in quantum mechanics involves applying the Schrödinger equation to a system of particles, and then using the continuity equation to connect the time evolution of the wave function to the probability density and current density.

3. What is the significance of current density in quantum mechanics?

Current density is an important quantity in quantum mechanics as it helps us understand the movement of charged particles in a quantum system. It is also used to calculate various properties of materials, such as conductivity, in the field of condensed matter physics.

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