Derivation Problem: Struggling with u Function

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In summary, the conversation discusses deriving a function involving variables and constants. The correct derivative formula is given, including the product and chain rules. The derivative with respect to α is also mentioned.
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Homework Statement



I don't manage to derive a function properly :(

Homework Equations



u = x^α * [(m-Ax)/B]^β

The Attempt at a Solution



FOC: x^α*ln(x)*?=0

It is the second factor I have a problem with. Preciate any help!
 
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Are you sure this is precalculus? Because it is not nearly as simple as you seem to think it should be.
Let me assume that your variable is x and that all other letters represent constants.

Then first of all, there are two functions of x being multiplied, so you will need the product rule:
(xα * [(m-Ax)/B]β)' = (xα)' * [(m-Ax)/B]β + xα * ( [(m-Ax)/B]β )'
Then the derivative of xα is not xα ln(x), but if x is the variable it's simply α xα - 1. For the derivative of the second part, you will need the chain rule (you can write it as yβ and get β yβ - 1 dy/dx).If, for some strange reason, you want to take the derivative with respect to α, however, you are right: you simply get
x^α ln(x) * [(m-Ax)/B]^β
because the whole second factor is simply constant with respect to α.
 
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The natural logarithm only turns up in derivatives of exponential problems, such as the derivative of [itex]a^x[/itex]- that is, with the variable, x, in the exponent.

Problems like this, which is just a power of x, with x in the base, are done by the 'power law', [itex](x^a)'= ax^{a- 1}[/itex] which is true for a and number, not just integers.
 
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1. What is the derivation problem in calculus?

The derivation problem in calculus refers to the concept of finding the rate of change of a function at a specific point. In other words, it is the process of calculating the slope or gradient of a function at a given point. This is typically done using the derivative of the function, which is a mathematical tool that allows us to find the rate of change at any point on the function.

2. What is the u function in the derivation problem?

The u function, also known as the inner function, is a term used in the chain rule of calculus. It is the function that is inside another function, and it is typically denoted by the letter "u". When using the chain rule, we need to take the derivative of the u function first and then multiply it by the derivative of the outer function to find the derivative of the entire function.

3. Why do students struggle with the u function in the derivation problem?

Students often struggle with the u function because it requires a solid understanding of the chain rule and how to apply it correctly. Additionally, the u function can be any function, which means students need to be familiar with different types of functions and their derivatives. Practice and familiarity with various functions can help students become more comfortable with the u function and the derivation problem as a whole.

4. How can I improve my skills in solving the derivation problem with the u function?

The best way to improve your skills in solving the derivation problem with the u function is through practice. Work through different examples and exercises that involve the chain rule and the u function. It can also be helpful to review the basic principles of calculus and make sure you have a strong understanding of the fundamentals before tackling more complex problems.

5. How is the derivation problem with the u function used in real-world applications?

The derivation problem with the u function is used in many real-world applications, particularly in fields such as physics, engineering, and economics. For example, it is used to calculate the velocity and acceleration of objects in motion, determine the optimal production levels in a manufacturing process, and analyze the growth of populations. Understanding the derivation problem and the u function is essential for solving these types of real-world problems.

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