Does Descartes Rule of Signs Count Multiplicities in Its Upper Bound for Roots?

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In summary, Descarte's rule of signs does not take into account multiplicities when determining the upper bound for roots. Each root, even if it is the same, is counted separately. Therefore, if there are 3 sign changes, there could potentially be 3 positive roots counting multiplicities, but it is not guaranteed. This rule only provides an upper bound for the number of positive roots.
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Does the Descartes rule of signs count multiplicities when giving its upper bound for roots? That is if I have 3 sign changes, does that mean there is a maximum of 3 positive roots counting multiplicities or not counting multiplicities?

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Each root, even if the same, is counted separately.
 
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For example, [itex](x- 2)^3= x^3- 6x^2+ 12x- 8= 0[/itex] has three sign changes and three positive roots- counting "2" as a triple root.

Actually this isn't a very good example because Descarte's rule of signs does not actually "count" roots. DesCarte's rule of signs says only that the number of positive roots is at most equal to the number of sign changes or is less by a multiple of two. Here, Descarte's rule of signs says that the number of postive roots is either 3 or 1 so it is not clear if it "counting" multiple roots.

But the number of sign changes of [itex](x- 2)^2= x^2- 4x+ 4= 0[/itex] is 2 so Descarte's rule of signs say the number of positive roots is 2 or 0. And it clearly is not 0.
 
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What is Descartes rule of signs?

Descartes rule of signs is a mathematical rule used to determine the number of positive and negative roots of a polynomial equation.

How does Descartes rule of signs work?

Descartes rule of signs states that the number of positive roots of a polynomial equation is equal to the number of sign changes in the coefficients of the terms, or less than that by an even number. The number of negative roots is equal to the number of sign changes in the coefficients of the terms with their signs reversed, or less than that by an even number.

What are the exceptions to Descartes rule of signs?

One exception is when there are multiple roots, which means that some roots have the same value. Another exception is when there are imaginary or complex roots, which cannot be determined using Descartes rule of signs.

How can Descartes rule of signs be applied?

Descartes rule of signs can be applied to polynomial equations with real coefficients. It can help determine the number of possible roots and their signs, which can be helpful in solving the equation or graphing it.

Are there any limitations to Descartes rule of signs?

Yes, Descartes rule of signs only applies to polynomial equations with real coefficients. It also does not provide the exact values of the roots, and further methods may be needed to find the actual roots of the equation.

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