phoenixthoth said:In that scientists would say that we have no free will (ie we're in strong predetermination) because of some equations they've written on a blackboard after makinf some observations and that those equations happen to be deterministic, the conclusion is that what is being observed is deterministic (or predetermined, if you will). I object to such statements as this:
1. we've dropped a ball near a massive object a few trillion times
2. it always fell according to such and such equation(s)
3. therefore, it will always be this way near all massive objects across the multiverse.
In short, inductive reasoning, which is what the deterministic equations of science are based on, fails to convince me that we have no free will.
ok so now i see where you are.. apparently. If you're saying that you disagree with scientists who say we have no free will, then I agree with you. Just because nature can be relied upon due to laws doesn't mean we have no free will. To this day there is no equation in math or physics that describes the activity of the brain, or even how decisions are made. That's because not only is the brain largely complex, but mainly because we do have free will, and free will cannot be controlled.