Detecting Space Time: Gravitational Radiation

In summary: Detected? It's not really like a tangible thing. I guess if you wanted to have experiment supporting the notion of space-time, you'd just have to look to those verifying special and general relativity or relativistic quantum mechanics etc.Almost by definition, if something happen somewhere, then that 'somewhere' belongs to spacetime.In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of detecting space-time and different methods that have been proposed. The use of radar and photographic detection is mentioned, as well as the historical attempts by Gauss to measure the curvature of space using mountain peaks. It is noted that using rigid materials for measurement would not be accurate due to the lack of perfect rigidity, and using light beams would be a better approach. Finally,
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It is just a thought, but how can space time be detected? i guess gravitational radiation is one way, is this the only way?
 
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Detected? It's not really like a tangible thing. I guess if you wanted to have experiment supporting the notion of space-time, you'd just have to look to those verifying special and general relativity or relativistic quantum mechanics etc.
 
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Almost by definition, if something happen somewhere, then that 'somewhere' belongs to spacetime.
 
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radar detection

wolram said:
It is just a thought, but how can space time be detected? i guess gravitational radiation is one way, is this the only way?
If you think about the space time coordinates of a distant event you could use the radar or photographic detection.
 
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AFAIK Gauss was the first to examine the properties of space. When working as a geodesist he checked the sum of angles of large triangles (~100 km). Of course he found no significant deviation from 180°.
 
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It's not at all clear what you mean by "detect space-time". Ich assumed you meant "detect the curvature of space-time" which is probably the best interpretation. As he said, Gauss attempted to determine if space is Euclidean by measuring the angles in a triangle formed by 3 mountain peaks using the best surveying equipment. He found any deviation from 180 degrees to be less than the error of measurement.

One difficulty with that is defining how you are going to measure things. Imagine using, say, Pluto, Uranus, and Neptune, at times when they are farthest apart in their orbits, as vertices of a triangle and thin steel bars as straight edges! Since, in relativity, there are no perfectly rigid materials, those bars would "sag" inward toward the sun- you would find the angles to be less than 180 degrees- elliptic geometry- and dependent upon the rigidity of the materials.

It would make much more sense to use laser beams as straight lines. Since it has been experimentally verified that light beams bend as they pass a star (the sun), your lines would appear curved and you would find the sum of the angles to be greater than 180 degrees- hyperbolic geometry- and that the curvature changed from moment to moment as the masses in the system moved.
 

1. What is gravitational radiation?

Gravitational radiation refers to the propagation of gravitational waves through space-time. These waves are ripples in the fabric of space-time caused by the acceleration of massive objects, such as black holes or neutron stars.

2. How are gravitational waves detected?

Gravitational waves are detected using highly sensitive instruments, such as interferometers, that can measure tiny changes in space-time caused by passing gravitational waves. These instruments work by measuring the interference patterns of laser beams reflected between mirrors, and any changes in the pattern can indicate the presence of gravitational waves.

3. What is the significance of detecting gravitational radiation?

Detecting gravitational radiation allows us to study and better understand the behavior of massive objects in our universe, such as black holes and neutron stars. It also provides evidence for the existence of gravitational waves, which were predicted by Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity.

4. How does the detection of gravitational radiation benefit us?

The detection of gravitational radiation has several potential benefits. It can provide valuable information about the formation and evolution of the universe, help improve our understanding of gravity, and even allow us to observe events that are invisible to traditional telescopes, such as the collision of black holes.

5. Can gravitational radiation be used for communication or travel?

No, gravitational radiation cannot be used for communication or travel. Gravitational waves are extremely weak and difficult to detect, making it impractical to use them for any practical purposes. Additionally, they travel at the speed of light, which is too slow for efficient communication or travel in our vast universe.

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