:yuck: I was just watching a replay of Meet The Press, and Dick Durbin (the Democratic Whip in the Senate) was cautioning about being overly-optimistic about Iraq, noting that THIS WEEK Iraq had trouble FORMING ITS GOVERNMENT. Jesus, what the hell is wrong with this guy? It was 13 years between our Declaration of Independence and having our first President, forming a nation isn't a goddamn easy task that gets done in A WEEK! How long were The Articles of Confederation in place for? How long were our forefathers arguing about everything that needs to be argued about when founding a nation? Does anyone know anything about Dick Durbin; is he a complete moron or something, or does being the whip of your party mean you can never say anything remotely good about the action of the other party?