# Diff Geo - Ferret Serret Apparatus

• sparkster
In summary, the problem states that if a C^k curve in the x,y plane has non-zero curvature, then its torsion must be identically 0. The hint given is to use diff functions x(s), y(s) such that a(s)=(x(s), y(s), 0) and show that the binormal vector field B has coordinates (0,0,1). However, the reasoning behind the problem may seem confusing as it suggests that if torsion exists, it must be 0. But this is not always true, as shown by an example in the same chapter where the curvature is non-zero but the torsion is also non-zero. It is important to note that this example is not in the xy

#### sparkster

The problem says this:

Let a(s) be a C^k curve in the x,y plane. Prove that if the curvature /=0 then the torsion is identically 0.

It gives a hint to note that there exist diff functions x(s), y(s) such that a(s)=(x(s), y(s), 0). Then show that B (Binormal vector field) = +/- (0,0,1).

I can get that the x and y coordinates of B are 0, but not the 1 part.

Also, I don't follow the reasoning behind the problem at all. If the curvature is zero, then you cannot calculate the normal, binormal, or torsion (at least not with the definitions we were given for them). So the problem seems to be saying that if the torsion exists, it must be 0!

But this can't be the case. An example in the same chapter of the text gives a(s)=r cos(ws), r sin (ws), hws). The curvature turns out to be non-zero, but the torsion is non-zero too. What am I not following?

But this can't be the case. An example in the same chapter of the text gives a(s)=r cos(ws), r sin (ws), hws). The curvature turns out to be non-zero, but the torsion is non-zero too. What am I not following?

But that curve doesn't lie in the xy plane, as this problem requires.

StatusX said:
But that curve doesn't lie in the xy plane, as this problem requires.
D'oh!

Okay, so in the xy plane, any curve with curvature zero, doesn't have torsion, etc. That makes sense. Now I have to figure out where I'm going wrong in the proof.