What is the difference between log and ln?

In summary, the difference between log and ln lies in the base used. In pre-calculus and elementary calculus courses, ln refers to the natural log with base e, while log typically refers to base 10. In higher courses, ln is often used for simplicity and because it follows a simple differentiation rule. In computer science, log may refer to base 2. The context and notation used will determine the base for log.
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In simple words, what is the difference between log and ln?
 
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In one notational convention:

\(\displaystyle \ln(x)=\log_{e}(x)\)

\(\displaystyle \log(x)=\log_{10}(x)\)

This is typically what you see in pre-calculus and elementary calculus courses.

In another convention:

\(\displaystyle \log(x)=\log_{e}(x)\)

This is what you'll find at W|A (but it will recognize ln as well). When you get into analysis, this is what you'll likely find used there.

In computer science, you may see:

\(\displaystyle \log(x)=\log_{2}(x)\)

So, it really depends on the context...and the notation "log" often means the most commonly used base in that particular environment.
 
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MarkFL said:
In one notational convention:

\(\displaystyle \ln(x)=\log_{e}(x)\)

\(\displaystyle \log(x)=\log_{10}(x)\)

This is typically what you see in pre-calculus and elementary calculus courses.

In another convention:

\(\displaystyle \log(x)=\log_{e}(x)\)

This is what you'll find at W|A (but it will recognize ln as well). When you get into analysis, this is what you'll likely find used there.

In computer science, you may see:

\(\displaystyle \log(x)=\log_{2}(x)\)

So, it really depends on the context...and the notation "log" often means the most commonly used base in that particular environment.

Good information.
 
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The reason why "\(\displaystyle \log(x)= \ln(x)\)" in higher courses (calculus and beyond) and "\(\displaystyle \log_{10}(x)\)" is just dropped is that \(\displaystyle \ln(x)\) satisfies the simple differentiation rule \(\displaystyle \frac{d\ln(x)}{dx}= \frac{1}{x}\) while if the base is 10, \(\displaystyle \frac{d \log_{10}(x)}{dx}= \frac{1}{\ln(10)x}\).
 

What is the difference between log and ln?

The main difference between log and ln (natural log) is the base of the logarithm. Logarithm with base 10 is denoted as log, while logarithm with base e (Euler's number) is denoted as ln. In other words, log is the inverse operation of raising a number to the power of 10, while ln is the inverse operation of raising a number to the power of e.

Can log and ln be used interchangeably?

No, log and ln cannot be used interchangeably. The base of the logarithm affects the value of the result, so they are not equivalent. However, they can be converted into each other using the change of base formula.

When should I use log and when should I use ln?

Logarithms with base 10 (log) are commonly used in mathematics, engineering, and finance, while logarithms with base e (ln) are commonly used in science, statistics, and calculus. The choice of base depends on the context and the problem being solved.

What are the properties of log and ln?

The properties of log and ln are similar, such as the product property, quotient property, power property, and change of base formula. However, the natural log has the additional property of being the inverse of the exponential function, e^(x), while log is the inverse of 10^(x).

Why is ln used in calculus?

In calculus, the natural log is used because it has a special property that makes it useful in integration and differentiation. The derivative of ln(x) is 1/x, which allows for easier simplification and solving of problems. It also arises naturally in many mathematical models and equations in physics and other sciences.

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