Discrete math question: Prove x is rational.

In summary, the conversation discusses the equation (ax+b)/(cx+d)=1 and whether x must be a rational number. Through solving the equation and applying the definition of a rational number, it is determined that x can be expressed as a ratio of two integers if a,b,c,d are integers. The conversation also emphasizes the importance of actively approaching a problem and understanding the definitions of mathematical terms.
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DarkGuju
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Suppose a,b,c,d are integers and a DOES NOT equal c. Suppose that x is a real number that satisfies the equation:

(ax+b)/(cx+d)=1

Must x be rational? If so, express x as a ratio of two integers.

I have no idea how to begin this problem.
 
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1. express this as x = (work it out)

2. See if you can apply the definition of 'rational' and get a conclusion

3. Something else - I'll tell you if and when you come back. :smile:
 
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(ax+b)=(cx+d)

ax-cx=d-b

x(a-c)=d-b

x=(d-b)/(a-c)

So if a,b,c,d are integers then the subtraction and division of integers must also be rational. Is that the answer?
 
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DarkGuju said:
(ax+b)=(cx+d)

ax-cx=d-b

x(a-c)=d-b

x=(d-b)/(a-c)

So if a,b,c,d are integers then the subtraction and division of integers must also be rational. Is that the answer?

Indeed it is!
 
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So now I will say point 3.

You said you had 'no idea how to begin'. So now you have done it, think about why you had no idea and how you did solve it. It was a question about x. So maybe it was a good idea to know what x was. Also often enough there are very few things you can do, so might as well try those. Also when asked whether something is rational, real, integral, prime, or other kind of number or thing, it can sound very abstruse till you ask yourself what that means, what is? a rational number for instance. The definition gave you the answer fairly directly. So now, having given yourself permission so to speak to do this actively instead of saying I have no idea and a blank page you have got yourself started and I'm sure will be able to handle the next problem actively and hopefully many others. :smile:
 

1. How do you prove that a number is rational?

To prove that a number is rational, you can show that it can be expressed as a ratio of two integers, where the denominator is not equal to zero. This can be done through various methods such as prime factorization, decimal expansions, or using the fundamental theorem of arithmetic.

2. Can you provide an example of a proof for a rational number?

Sure! Let's prove that 1.5 is a rational number. We can write 1.5 as 3/2, where 3 and 2 are both integers and 2 is not equal to zero. Therefore, 1.5 is a rational number.

3. What is the difference between a rational and an irrational number?

A rational number is any number that can be expressed as a ratio of two integers, while an irrational number cannot be expressed as a ratio of two integers. Irrational numbers include numbers such as π and √2, which have infinite non-repeating decimal expansions.

4. Can a rational number be negative?

Yes, a rational number can be negative. In fact, any integer can be expressed as a rational number with a denominator of 1. For example, -5 can be written as -5/1, making it a rational number.

5. Is there a shortcut or formula for proving a number is rational?

There isn't a specific shortcut or formula for proving a number is rational, as it depends on the specific number and the method used for proving it. However, there are some general strategies and rules that can be applied, such as using the properties of rational numbers and the fundamental theorem of arithmetic.

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