Distinct powers of z=cosa*pi+isina*pi

  1. How many distinct powers of z=cosa[pi]+isina[pi] are there if a is rational? Irrational?
    Concerning the rational part of the question, it was easy to show that if a=p/q, then there are q distinct powers of z if p is even, and 2q if p is odd.
    (q+n)p[pi]/q=p[pi]+np[pi]/q (p is even)
    (2q+n)p[pi]/q=2p[pi]+np[pi]/q (p is odd)
    I was wondering for this instance if there is a more direct way to get the answer (as opposed to just chosing q+n for n). For example, I at first attempted to write an equation such that the difference between two angles is a multiple of 2[pi].
    n2p[pi]/q - n1p[pi]/q=k2[pi]
    k is some positive integer
    (p/q)[pi](n2 - n1)=k2[pi]
    But this method has poor results.
    n2 - n1=2kq/p
    ......
    As for the second instance, I haven't the slightest clue how to go about showing that there is an infinite number of distinct powers. My equation above certainly would have no application here because there should be no two angles that have a difference that is a multiple of 2[pi]. And as for just arbitrarily selecting values of n, I don't think that will get me very far since I will have to select an infinite number of n's to show there is no repeat.
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2003
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  3. You're looking for the smallest natural number n that satisfies

    na[pi]= k*2[pi], or
    na=2k

    Now, let a = p/q, then
    np=2qk

    p and q have no common factor larger than 1.
    So, If p is odd, then p=k, so n=2q.
    If p is even, then p=2k, so n=q.

    As you already stated correctly.

    Now, what solutions does na=2k have if a is irrational? :wink:
     
  4. Re: Re: Distinct powers of z=cosa*pi+isina*pi

    Your work has the exact same result as mine (n=2kq/p), but I was unable to determine what value k takes on.
    I need to know how you determined p=k .... before I can answer this:
     
  5. Re: Re: Re: Distinct powers of z=cosa*pi+isina*pi

    OK. You know that each integer can be factorized into primes in a unique way. Examples:
    60 = 2*2*3*5
    85 = 5*19
    ...
    Low let a be rational, i.e. a = p/q. If p and q have any common prime factors, then we can divide them out. Let's assume we have already done this, so p and q have no common prime factors.

    Now, if np = 2qk, then the prime factors on both sides are the same.

    Now, let p be odd. This means, n is even. Let n = 2n'.
    Then, 2n'p = 2qk, or n'p = qk.
    Any prime factor of p cannot be in q, so it must be in k. And vice versa, no prime factor of q can be in p, so it must be in n'.
    This yields p = k and q = n', so n = 2q.

    Now, let p be even. Then let p = 2p', so 2np' = 2qk, or np' = qk.
    The same argument as above yields p' = k and n = q.
     
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