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Do condoms cause abortions?

  1. Aug 24, 2006 #1
    If an adult can be deathly allergic to latex, could a condom instigate an abortion? Also, since condoms are never purchased for underage users, neither will the morning after pill.

    The vaccine for genital herpes assumes that females will eventually have sex! You might as well rule out that a girl's irregular vaginal bleeding could indicate cancer.
     
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  3. Aug 24, 2006 #2

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    If you're deathly allergic to latex, why in the world would you use a condom? Nevermind in the vaginal area. Most girls plan on using that area more than a few times you know.

    Yes, condoms are bought by underage users. As far as I know, there is no specific age.
     
  4. Aug 24, 2006 #3

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    You can get polyurethane condoms, or natural lambskin ones, if you have a latex allergy. The latter, however, are too porous to protect against STD's.
     
  5. Aug 24, 2006 #4
    I was speaking "tongue in cheek." My point was, if an embryo were allergic to latex, it might be aborted due to the presence of such a condom. Other glib comments also refer to the controversy over the "morning after" pill.
     
  6. Aug 24, 2006 #5

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    If you take your tongue out of your cheek and put it back where it belongs, you don't need a condom. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Aug 25, 2006 #6
    If your so (umm... how do I put this) Large that your member comes into contact with the embryo during intercourse then nevermind the effect of the condom. The poor baby won't survive the physical abuse :frown:
     
  8. Aug 25, 2006 #7
    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

    Truer words were never spoken

    marlon
     
  9. Aug 25, 2006 #8
    Thanks for the laughs, but seriously, could an embryo's allergy to latex condoms cause it to abort?
     
  10. Aug 25, 2006 #9

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    No. During pregnancy, the uterus is sealed by a mucous plug in the cervix.
     
  11. Aug 25, 2006 #10

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    In addition, the fetus is enclosed within the fetal membranes, protecting it further from the external environment. Also, allergies are not something one is born with, but develop over time requiring repeated exposure and a developed immune system.

    And, just to correct another issue in the original post, the vaccine available to protect girls/women from cervical cancer is not for genital herpes, but for Human Papilloma Virus (HPV).

    In the future, Loren, please make it more clear what your question is and what is an attempt at sarcasm. It was not at all clear that your original post was not just some rambling, misinformed rant. I'm glad it was able to be clarified, but it's difficult to keep on topic when we aren't sure what the topic is from the original post.
     
  12. Aug 25, 2006 #11
    Thanks, Moonbear, mine was a poor attempt at comedy. I was so consumed with trying to make a joke (and ranting on sexual conservatives) that I misattributed the HPV, among other things. Buried beneath was a legitimate topic, though. I will try to refrain from inanity where sobriety should stand. I do appreciate your concern and will try to remember your caution. Thanks for the opportunity.
     
  13. Aug 25, 2006 #12
    What an odd thread :bugeye: :confused:
     
  14. Aug 26, 2006 #13
    In the early stages of embryonic development, neither mucous plug nor substantial fetal membranes yet exist. Allergens like latex that can cause anaphylactic shock or death later in life could be considered potentially abortifactant (acting upon either the embryo or uterus), especially during the first weeks of pregnancy.
     
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  15. Aug 26, 2006 #14

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    An embryo can't have an anaphylatic shock, since it doesn't have an immune system. As moonbear already said.
     
  16. Aug 26, 2006 #15
    There are several reasons why an inseminated egg may not survive. Latex, allergic or not, is the least of it's worries as far as I know.





    And I'm not sure how long I will be on but HEY EVERYBODY!!!
     
  17. Aug 26, 2006 #16

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    Hi, Stats. Nice to see you (read you?) again.
     
  18. Aug 26, 2006 #17
    As an example (perhaps this analogy I draw is reaching) if a chemical (e. g., a carcinogen) is liable to do severe genetic damage, it probably effects deleteriously other areas of the body (causes neurological damage, say). Eventually in this thread I have tried to present that the early embryo would especially be vulnerable to chemicals (like dangerous allergens) foreign to it, not that it even has the ability to go into shock.

    Elements like copper used in IUDs are just poisonous enough to help prevent implantation. Could not latex, representing a chemical known to cause death in humans, reduce the viability of a blastocyst?
     
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  19. Aug 26, 2006 #18

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    Again, Loren, we've already explained to you why latex would not cause an allergic reaction in an embryo. Now, if you're talking about the mother having an anaphylactic reaction to latex, sure, such trauma could possibly cause her to abort, but if the mother is not allergic, there is absolutely NO chance an embryo would be affected in any way by latex, again, because an allergic reaction requires a functioning immune system, which is not there.

    Teratogens act on the DNA, and have nothing to do with allergies.
     
  20. Aug 26, 2006 #19
    How might a couple discover the need for such precaution (regarding allergy to latex) in general? This fact should be included in the sex ed curriculum, along with the more common but less dire warning of not using Vaseline with said condoms. A frank discussion with one's doctor, upon learning of the allergy, should include caveats about all latex contraceptives, even if the patient is underaged but prone to be sexually active.
     
  21. Aug 26, 2006 #20
    Surely a latex allergy could be discovered long before the dreaded condom covered penis enters the vagina. I certainly agree that it should be mentioned when latex condoms are discussed, but not as some kind of "scared celibate" tactic.

    Also, it's unclear to me whether Loren is trying to claim that Plan B is an abortifacent, and just what point she has about the HPV vaccine.
     
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