Stolen from: Well cosmological arguement is wrong. Hypothetically. Create a new universe. No God. and 1 atom of radioactive (oh whatever, plutonium, doesnt matter). Nothing CAUSES this atom to decay. as there is nothing in this universe. it is entirely random and impossible to predict. Just shoot over to QM forum just a weeee bit higher up. BAsically everything they work with has no cause at all. Virtual particles for example have absolutely no cause. So the first axion/premise of the cosmological arguement is broken. and the telelogical arguement simply is the watchmaker arguement. which is commonly expunged. as it is a fallacy to begin with. the axiom/premise presuppose the results. So if deists actually base their belief of deism based on reason. and since all known logical/reason arguements have been rather refutted. Do deists even exist?