Do you guys value good spelling?

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This may not really be a question for Physics Forums, but I'm just wondering:

Do you guys value good spelling? I mean, when grammar, syntax, and the rest don't matter, do you still value good spelling?

I don't mean "glorify" it; I'm just referring to the value of spelling. Not on AIM, but just anywhere else: Is spelling important?

I value spelling very much, you see. To me, a misspelled word...well, it is annoying. When people can't spell correctly, it irritates me. What about you?
I mean, spelling is important, right? Right?
 

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Too me,only if its my ntivae lanugage (Rominaan).In Engleesh,i overstand,bcause its hapen's mo te to.

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I do value spelling, although I don't get completely anal about someone misspelling a word or two here and there. Typos happen, as does the occasional word that's been mutated by microsoft's spellchecker. But if every third word is misspelled, that really starts to bother me. It's all a part of clear communication, and I've seen people write with so many misspellings, I really don't know what they're trying to say because I'm not sure which word they meant.
 
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Basically if bad spelling is epidemic in your typing, its a problem, if its just occasional typos, then not really.
 
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dextercioby said:
Too me,only if its my ntivae lanugage (Rominaan).In Engleesh,i overstand,bcause its hapen's mo te to.

Daniel.
Romanian; my native language is Russian :smile:

Moonbear said:
I do value spelling, although I don't get completely anal about someone misspelling a word or two here and there. Typos happen, as does the occasional word that's been mutated by microsoft's spellchecker. But if every third word is misspelled, that really starts to bother me. It's all a part of clear communication, and I've seen people write with so many misspellings, I really don't know what they're trying to say because I'm not sure which word they meant.
Ok..but a paper with PERFECT spelling, especially if done without spell check on the computer....well...it's a good thing, you know? :smile:

But really, spelling should always be correct :smile: , unless a word is "difficult." My English teacher makes "typos" at times--but really! At that level, spelling should be "second-nature" to the person! :bugeye:
 
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A clump of mis-spelled words, or for this matter, a miss-spelled word, extremely slows the reader down. There is nothing more aggravating than having to pause every other word while reading.

Good spelling, syntax, and punctuation really help to articulate; have you ever noticed that songlike flow that good writings have?

But anyway, spelling is definitely important. There has to be a standard form for every word..because even slight variations will break a reader's thought.
 
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Moonbear said:
I do value spelling, although I don't get completely anal about someone misspelling a word or two here and there. Typos happen, as does the occasional word that's been mutated by microsoft's spellchecker. But if every third word is misspelled, that really starts to bother me. It's all a part of clear communication, and I've seen people write with so many misspellings, I really don't know what they're trying to say because I'm not sure which word they meant.
I feel the same way, though I value syntax over grammar over spelling. Syntax slows me down, grammar is annoying, whereas spelling, I don't really care unless its an "epidemic" in there communication.
 
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lol, anal

Action hero with 5 o'clock shadow pushes a crowd out of the way, "Get outa the way! I'm going anal!" Said like its some sort of superpower.
 
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I know some really brilliant people who just can't spell. I've never figured out why{barring dyslexia}.
 
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I do not really care about words that are spelled incorrectly as long as I understand what the person is saying. I think sentence structure is much more important.
 
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I care if I've spelt a word incorrectly, but seeing as I take English it doesn't surprise me. I don't care if others spell words wrong, but its quite worrying when they spell easy words wrong.
I know someone who spells coffee as coffie. Makes me laugh.
 
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If you are referring to normal, everyday usage and contact, then I don't mind a few wrong spellings. That being said, I believe that a lack of thought when it comes to spelling will make it's way into how a person cumminicates. The people who do not put an emphasis on things like spelling are the same people who tend to decimate the english language when they speak.

It's like, so totally, like, annoying, when people get like there words mixed up and stuff.

In a professional setting, situation or document, there are absolutely no excuses for poor spelling.
 
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FredGarvin said:
If you are referring to normal, everyday usage and contact, then I don't mind a few wrong spellings. That being said, I believe that a lack of thought when it comes to spelling will make it's way into how a person cumminicates. The people who do not put an emphasis on things like spelling are the same people who tend to decimate the english language when they speak.

It's like, so totally, like, annoying, when people get like there words mixed up and stuff.

In a professional setting, situation or document, there are absolutely no excuses for poor spelling.
I hate to say it, but you're a poor speller yourself.

I have to say that sentence structure is also very important. Its not hard to write properly.

I try to write my best all the time even on MSN Messenger. If I do make a mistake, I have the urge to correct it right away by putting *stars* to indicate a mistake, along with the correction inside the stars.

Note: You will notice that alot of my posts have been edited, and this is due to making corrections.

Note: I did make a small error in this post. :cry:
 
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Anyone can make typos, especially online; a very common one is the 2-letter transposition (the > teh). This is merely a result of fast typing. But poor spelling and grammar is rarely due to mere hurriedness.

<I am committing a grievous netiquette breach and critiquing others' online English, so flame-shield on.>

Irony: More than half of the responses above have at least two clear English errors. That's not what's ironic though. What's ironic is that the responses that express strong feelings about correct English generally had more errors than those who were more neutral about the subject, which had few or no errors.

"its/it's" was the worst offender.
 
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I hate it when people don't capitalize on message boards, because it makes things harder to read. I think this might be due to MS Word making people lazy, and this laziness carrying into non-autocorrecting mediums.

Bad spelling kind of bugs me too - though I do know a few bright people who can't spell.

Or people who use "intensive purposes" instead of "intents and purposes". Are they so badly-read that they've never seen "intents and purposes" written out before?
 
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JasonRox said:
Note: I did make a small error in this post. :cry:
It's almost inevitable when writing about spelling or grammar that a post will contain a spelling or grammar mistake.

I am only truly picky on things that are meant to be professional and should be proofread with a fine tooth comb. In posts here, I know I'm as guilty as anyone else of the periodic typo or misspelling. Mostly, it's the typos that get the better of me. A key will stick and a letter is missing, or my typing speed and thinking speed get out of sync, so strange words get typed. So, I'm also tolerant of that in others here. I also realize that we have many participants here who are not native English speakers or writers, so their misspellings are understandable, especially when they are due to confusing two similar words. If someone specifically notes a word they are unsure about, I'll volunteer a correction, otherwise, I'll assume they are here to learn science, not spelling.
 
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I'd also like to mention that quite a few members of my research group are fairly hard-core grammarians, and they know the subtleties of using "that" vs "which" or whether or not to use commas and other grammatical minutiae. I'm a bit lazy about those rules, and I'm sure that my writing may bug them on occasion. But in those cases, the meaning is almost always pretty clear by context anyhow.
 
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JasonRox said:
I hate to say it, but you're a poor speller yourself.
I made 1 spelling error and one grammatical error. I hardly think that puts me in the "poor" category.

Like I said, I don't mind it in a casual situation which this is.
 
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FredGarvin said:
I made 1 spelling error and one grammatical error. I hardly think that puts me in the "poor" category.

Like I said, I don't mind it in a casual situation which this is.
Yeah, but that spelling error wasn't small.

My English teacher would give a zero on the overall mark, for a mistake like that.
 
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Psh, misspelling a single word doesn't make somebody a poor speller.. You're obviously just carping trival details, which is kinda stupid in my opinion =/
 
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Psh, misspelling a single word doesn't make somebody a poor speller.. You're obviously just carping trival details, which is kinda stupid in my opinion =/
There is a difference between a spelling mistake and just plain bad spelling.

If you spelled the word "parallel" as "parrallel", than it's not so bad. If you spelled the word "parallel" as "perrallel", than is just plain horrible. This shows that you clearly have no clue how the word should be spelt.

FredGarvin spelt the word "communicate" as "cumminicates", which is just terrible. I have no problems with spelling mistakes. I only have problems with my spelling mistakes. The only reason why I commented was because of his comments towards bad spellers.

"The people who do not put an emphasis on things like spelling are the same people who tend to decimate the english language when they speak."

I have no problem reading MSN language when I talk to others on Messenger. I just prefer that I continue to write properly.

Note: I'm going to look over my posts to make sure I didn't offend anyone. That wasn't my intent, I think.

Note: I looked over my post, and I see nothing wrong.
 
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^Who cares. You obviously realize that s/he meant communicate/s, so why give him/her a hard time about it. And about your grammar teacher giving one a 0 for that mistake: Again, pff, who cares, is s/he being graded here?
 
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Spelling doesn't bother me too much as I, myself, cannot spell well but grammar annoys me. When people use aspostraphes when there is no need for one (<------- see what I mean about spelling??? :smile:) or when people use a plural noun and say 'is' and not 'are'. Grammar and punctunation get to me, not spelling too much.

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
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Grammar and spelling are very difficult for me. I struggle continuously to transfer my thoughts to readable and understandable written word. I also recognize that I do not always succeed.

I object to those who do not even try. This forum is a wonderful opportunity to learn written communications skills. Every post should be make with the reader in mind. Well written, correctly spelled, correctly punctuated text is easy to read and understand. If you wish to be understood you should strive to write clearly and correctly. Is it always possible to succeed? Of course not, especially when you are attempting to convey difficult concepts. What is important is putting in the effort, with effort your writing will improve over time.

With all of this, I recognize that English is a second, or third, or fourth.. language for many of our members, Since I barely have command of the English language only, I am in no position to criticize others writing.

(By the way I use IEspell, it found ~12 misspelled words in the original text above!)
 
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There is a difference between typos and poor spelling. I have gotten really bad about making typographical errors. :frown: Misspelled words slow my reading down because they stick out, but poor grammar is much more irritating.
 

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