# Do you guys work while attending University?

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Or just in the summer?

My parents think I should quit my job so I can focuse more on my education.

jmcgraw
If your not a party animal, I am of the opinion that working actually helps you acedemically. I have always found that I study much better when I work. In the past I have taken off time from work to catch up with studies, but I always find that I just become more lazy.

I was reading one of the Sherlock Holmes stories the other day and I remember a quote that went, roughly, "The best rest is a change in work." Presonally I find that to be quite true.

Corneo
I work part time during the academic year. I find that work forces me manage my time more efficiently by planning out my tasks for the week.

leon1127
Or just in the summer?

My parents think I should quit my job so I can focuse more on my education.

I have always been working somewhat since 13 years old (please don't ask me how and where)...
I past 6 AP tests last year.
I am working about 40-50 hours every week and I am in 4 years University. Although I go online 3 hours a day at least, but I still feel this is too much working for me.

Concludsion: You should working somewhere around 20-30 hours a week and it is nice to schedule around weekend.

And i can't agree more what jmcggraw said, but don't work too hard.

Stephan Hoyer
The ideal case is to find one of those jobs that tend to exist on college campuses where you can get paid for barely having to do any work. If you're lucky, you can get paid to sit behind a desk and do your homework :D.

I work for the ITS department at my school staffing the helpdesk for students (about 8 hours a week). Libraries are apparently pretty good, too. Generally, we have little or nothing to do, so I'll just pull out my work and do a math problem set.

We don't get paid much, but if I'm only actually working 25% of the time (and time I'd probably be wasting anyways) it's like getting paid $35/hour for a couple of hours a week of lost time. Admittedly, that's not a huge amount of work depending on the degree to which you need to support yourself, but there are opportunities out there if you look for them. zwtipp05 leon1127 said: I have always been working somewhat since 13 years old (please don't ask me how and where)... I past 6 AP tests last year. I am working about 40-50 hours every week and I am in 4 years University. Although I go online 3 hours a day at least, but I still feel this is too much working for me. Concludsion: You should working somewhere around 20-30 hours a week and it is nice to schedule around weekend. And i can't agree more what jmcggraw said, but don't work too hard. For work-study jobs on campus, they won't let you work more than 20 hours a week.. your schedule sounds insane leon1127 zwtipp05 said: For work-study jobs on campus, they won't let you work more than 20 hours a week.. your schedule sounds insane I have gotten 3 jobs and i don't work on campus at all. I think 40 hours are too much for a full time student. I can hardly have time to read books. Lucky that i am not taking really hard classes in my first semester (they were all closed...) next semester, i am taking chem2, E&M, linear algebra, D.E and perhaps english and gov/eco... I would quit one of my job and concerntrate on study and 2 other jobs. 1+1=1 I've worked all four years. Loved it too. Felt that I did much better in classes. I am the type of person who always has to have his hands into something, call me crazy. What you need to do is to get one job and see how it effects you. If your grades and such drop, drop the job. ktpr2 Oh man I'm running into problems with working and school. I work a workstudy, 16 hours a week, and it requires real work, with real people depending on what I do. While it's nice to have a job you matter, it's destroying my homework time. Everyday I go home and think to myself, dang, I could've done all my homework for one class in that amount of time. instead I come home tired, chill out for an hour or two and then suddenly I only have 3 hours of time left. So I think it all boils down to how much school work you can do on the job and what your major is. I'm majoring in electrical engineering, so I find a 16 hour week workstudy where you actually have to do stuff is a bit to much. If you were my son I 'd say quit your job or work like 10 hours a week. Poop-Loops Stephan hoyer said: The ideal case is to find one of those jobs that tend to exist on college campuses where you can get paid for barely having to do any work. If you're lucky, you can get paid to sit behind a desk and do your homework :D That's the job I have! Except, it's a salesman at a fitness store. With expensive equipment. So for an 8 hour day, I get maybe 5 people in total. Maybe an hour spent on them, another hour on chores (cleaning, etc), rest I can do homework. I worked ~36 hours a week during summer, but now I will go back to ~20/week. I have no excuse for not getting 4.0's in my classes. :p PL Science Advisor Gold Member I would recommend against working more than about 10 hours a week if you are taking a full load [~15 hours], and certainly no more than 20 hours. It is unlikely you will do justice to either effort if overloaded. Plan on spending about 1 hour of work outside of class for every hour in class and deduct that, along with your in class hours, from a 40 hour work week [50 if you feel heroic] to approximate a reasonable schedule. Learning Curve If you do work, don't get a job that will wear you out. I work 24 hours a week, which isn't a lot but I'm a lifeguard. Lifeguarding wears me out and I get home to do some homework and I'm too tired to do it. Not a good situation. Norman Are your parents paying for school and supporting you? How independent of your parents do you want to be? If you rely on your parents for all your living expenses, depending on your relationship with your parents, things might get kinda weird once you start feeling the need to be more independent. Will working only over summer fund you for a whole year of school? gravenewworld I have had a job all 4 years at school and for the past 2 years I worked 2 jobs- working in the library and working in the lab at a pharmaceutical company. Freaking last year was crazy 2 21 credit semesters and working 20+ hours per week= no sleep. I needed the$ though to pay for rent and food. Evey summer since I was about 15 I have worked 40-60 hours per week.

leon1127
Norman said:
Are your parents paying for school and supporting you? How independent of your parents do you want to be? If you rely on your parents for all your living expenses, depending on your relationship with your parents, things might get kinda weird once you start feeling the need to be more independent. Will working only over summer fund you for a whole year of school?

My relationship with my parents is that I have to pay for part of their living
Luckily, my financial aid awarded me yesterday. I might be able to reschedule my work

ludi_srbin
Well my experience with work was pretty bad. Not academically but phsycologically. That is probably just me. I'm somehow alergic to work, and I would be very nervous when I have to go to work. I just hated it. Customers would never stopp coming. Yall should have seen my face when I quit. That was one of the best days of my life. When I just think about the fact that I'll have to work next 30-40 years hair on my body raises.

Gold Member
I currently doing two part-time jobs. One at my school (on weekdays) and the other a fast food joint (on weekends). That sucks when you have 3 lab reports due every week! Unlike most people, I hate weekends...

Genecks
More Education > minimum wage.
That's my opinion.

At my college here, they have a program where you can tutor young kids for cash.

I rather spend time learning than working. However learning while you work is what is great about apprenticeships. Security engineering being a fun one.

jsaxton
I work about 15 hours per week as a sysadmin/programmer for the chemical engineering department at my University. The pay is good, and I learn a ton of really practical stuff at my job. I see my job as an extension of my education, not something hindering it.

zeronem
I work while attending College. And very fortunate I am that my work has to do with the College.

gazzo
At my University in the Maths department (at least), you can apply to become a tutor after your first year, and tutor first year students (they pay around $15p/h!) and mark assignments. Like jsaxton said, it's great if you can find a job that's an extension to your learning. I work in the IT department for a freighting company sometimes during the breaks, and do IT support for a Physio clinic; both go well with a ComputerScience major. Working in your department let's you climb up the ranks and get to know everyone. waht re At my job that I was working was very stressful and unpredictable but was good pay compared to my peers. Everytime I came home so tired and stressed out that i didn't take care of important stuff. Eventually I had to drop out of the semester and the next one too. By then I had a huge loan to pay off heh. I eventually quit my job and sure it was the best day of my life heh. Science Advisor Homework Helper Gold Member I prefer that my students NOT work, unless it is work-study or somehow academically-related. In any case, work must not interfere with your education... and certainly don't let it interfere with my classes. (I frown when I am told by a student that he/she will miss all or part of my class due to "work", especially on a regular basis!) In the summer, there are lots of opportunities for students to participate in REU programs and internships. Many pay rather well and offer relevant academic experience. my$0.02

Poop-Loops
Some of these replies REALLY surprise me. I am a student that has to pay for his own schooling, so without a job I'd be screwed. I'm lucky enough that my parents haven't kicked me out of the house, but they just CANNOT pay for college, too.

I'm only in my 2nd year so far, so I don't know if it the class difficulty suddenly spikes or not. How else do I pay for gas and personal expenses?

PL

djeipa
Ooohhh, really ?
I have a part time job, I work in a lab. People there are nice. Their job is to make crystal test tubes by blowing airstream into the tube. My job is to collect tubes and arrange them into bags in time for delivery to the school. Some nice girls there blow for me several tubes, I put them in my room now to make experiement.
Each month company transfers around \$500 into my bank account.

Hercule Poirot
Stephan Hoyer said:
The ideal case is to find one of those jobs that tend to exist on college campuses where you can get paid for barely having to do any work. If you're lucky, you can get paid to sit behind a desk and do your homework :D.
LOL, you reminded me of my job as a "computer lab advisor" in my fourth year, I literally didn't do anything except for filling papers in the printers, and closing the lab at the end of the shift :rofl:

Optep
My part-time job is very easy, just wait till called, because I am only 20 yrs old, my boss not assign big-heavy jobs for me, he let's me deal with small ones only. Because smalls ones won't need my strength much, i can happily finish without any hurt at all.
But the first time really a bad time. I cried a lot, but you no, its useless, I had to endure the pain till all jobs done.

ek
I "work" on and off throughout the year. Usually only a week or two each month, and maybe 15 hours a week when I'm doing it.

Of course my "work" is internet poker, but really it's not a whole lot different than having a McJob or whatever. I just get to set my own hours, work less and make more money.

It's a pretty good gig. Unfortunately, though, my resume sucks. You can't exactly put "online poker player".

marlon
Or just in the summer?

My parents think I should quit my job so I can focuse more on my education.

I tutored students when i was in college, during the entire academic year. It was great extra money (at least for a student ). I gave both mathematics and physics to freshmen-students and high school students. The took place in a private organization and involved planning a working schedule, meeting with partents/ other teachers (most of them also students) and ofcourse giving physics and mathematics. It was a great experience, especially because i learned a lot from it. I mean, there is a big difference between being able to complete a good physics exam and being able to teach physics in front of students and solve problems at the instant.

Trust me, try to find such a job, it is really good for several reasons (money, experience, learning and relaxing...). Just be sure that when you do a job while being at college, you need to have a strick planning that you must respect. Also, try to find a job that is closely related to what you study. In that case, outside teaching, there is not going to be very much.

regards
marlon

marlon
robphy said:
I prefer that my students NOT work,
I am sorry, but that's none of your business. If you want to have a big audiemce when you give your lessons, be sure that you are a talented and inspiring teacher. Are you ?

marlon

Norman
marlon said:
It was a great experience, especially because i learned a lot from it. I mean, there is a big difference between being able to complete a good physics exam and being able to teach physics in front of students and solve problems at the instant.

This is so true. There is a saying I picked up from somewhere (anyone know who said it or is it just an old saying), that you never truly learn something until you have to teach it to someone else. And if you are an academic and do research, a good test of whether you understand the material thoroughly is to try and explain it clearly to a lay person. Many times, after I have been working on something and my wife asks me about it, I realize in the course of explaining it to her that I don't understand some part of it (or maybe any of it yet). So, if you can get a job teaching, it will help you become a better student. Truly.
Cheers,
Ryan

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marlon said:
robphy said:
I prefer that my students NOT work,
I am sorry, but that's none of your business. If you want to have a big audiemce when you give your lessons, be sure that you are a talented and inspiring teacher. Are you ?

marlon

We have an attendance policy. So, it is my business if students miss my classes. As I said, "I prefer that my students NOT work, unless it is work-study or somehow academically-related. In any case, work must not interfere with your education... "
marlon said:
I tutored students when i was in college, during the entire academic year. It was great extra money (at least for a student ). I gave both mathematics and physics to freshmen-students and high school students. ... It was a great experience, especially because i learned a lot from it.
So, you see for yourself the value of an academically-related job. And, I'll guess that you probably didn't miss class on a regular basis because you had to tutor someone.

Conerning if I "wanna have a big audiemce when you give your lessons", it's not so much that I want a big audience. It's that I'd prefer to teach my lesson once and not have to repeat myself for someone that doesn't make it regularly to my classes because of work. Classes are scheduled for a reason.

As to whether I am a "talented and inspiring teacher", I'll leave that to others to judge.

marlon
robphy said:
We have an attendance policy.
That is so childish

I'll guess that you probably didn't miss class on a regular basis because you had to tutor someone.
Yes i did, though i must admit i always made sure i attended the lessons that covered really difficult topics or subjects that were really important for examns. I always made sure i knew guys/girls who were one year ahead of me, so that i could inform on the important parts of some course...That i must admit. I did not just skipped classes without "thinking" about what i was going to miss, you see ?

I'd prefer to teach my lesson once and not have to repeat myself for someone that doesn't make it regularly to my classes because of work. Classes are scheduled for a reason.
Trust me, most of the students that attend classes are not even paying full attention. Just ask them a question like "what did i just say" or something... I am sure your lessons will become much more , err, entertaining.

regards

marlon

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marlon said:
robphy said:
We have an attendance policy.
That is so childish
I agree... but I didn't make the rules.

marlon said:
I'd prefer to teach my lesson once and not have to repeat myself for someone that doesn't make it regularly to my classes because of work. Classes are scheduled for a reason.
Trust me, most of the students that attend classes are not even paying full attention. Just ask them a question like "what did i just say" or something... I am sure your lessons will become much more , err, entertaining.
I know... I used to be a student too. That is why, as an educator, I actively find [and enjoy finding] new ways to teach and engage students in my courses. (I don't mind repeating and further discussing things with students that heard me the first time, even with minimal attention on their part. In fact, an educator can learn a lot from doing this.)

zeronem
marlon said:
I tutored students when i was in college, during the entire academic year. It was great extra money (at least for a student ). I gave both mathematics and physics to freshmen-students and high school students. The took place in a private organization and involved planning a working schedule, meeting with partents/ other teachers (most of them also students) and ofcourse giving physics and mathematics. It was a great experience, especially because i learned a lot from it. I mean, there is a big difference between being able to complete a good physics exam and being able to teach physics in front of students and solve problems at the instant.

Trust me, try to find such a job, it is really good for several reasons (money, experience, learning and relaxing...). Just be sure that when you do a job while being at college, you need to have a strick planning that you must respect. Also, try to find a job that is closely related to what you study. In that case, outside teaching, there is not going to be very much.

regards
marlon

Wow, that's pretty much exactly what I am doing right now.

I am tutoring Calculus III and University Physics I to this one person. While I am also tutoring College Algebra to another. I also get frequent calls from people who need to be tutored. It seems like I'm the first name that comes out of various teachers mouth when recommending a tutor.