Does God believe in himself?

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Originally posted by Iacchus32
Do you believe that there's a source of all-knowing? Why not? ... It seems like "something" is there to tell us how the Universe is structured and put together. And yet it's certainly not us now is it? :wink:
The source of our knowledge is the existence of the objective material world.
 
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Originally posted by heusdens
The source of our knowledge is the existence of the objective material world.
And yet how do we recognize that knowledge, without the "intrinsic ability" to do so?

And how about the marvel of the mind's ability to conceptualize, and to draw truths from its conceptualizations?
 
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Originally posted by Iacchus32
And yet how do we recognize that knowledge, without the "intrinsic ability" to do so?

And how about the marvel of the mind's ability to conceptualize, and to draw truths from its conceptualizations?

This "intrinsic ability" has been developed in a process that lasted aprox. 3.2 billion years and is called "evolution".
 
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Originally posted by heusdens
This "intrinsic ability" has been developed in a process that lasted aprox. 3.2 billion years and is called "evolution".
It's sure an interesting medium ... consciousness ... is it not? With all these little "abstract processes" firing off in everybodies brains, in our attempt to take over the whole process of what we once deemed "natural."

Would you say that natural selection is involved now? Or, have we pretty much tossed that out the window as well? Looks to me like natural selection has pretty much provided a means by which to destroy itself. And no, you can't blame it on a freak accident such as a meteorite or an asteroid -- or, that which is entirely out of its control.

Hence it would seem the evolutionary process has been thrown off kilter, ever since the advent of modern man about 10,000 years ago. Could it be, because as the Bible says, that man is a fallen creature? Indeed that would be quite a prediction -- in reference to the current world today -- for having been made such a long time ago!
 
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We have the means, it is just that we don't do it, and that has to do that we inhereted from the process of evolution the feauture of self-care. If we hadn't been caring for our existence, we would not have got here.
 
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Originally posted by heusdens
We have the means, it is just that we don't do it, and that has to do that we inhereted from the process of evolution the feauture of self-care. If we hadn't been caring for our existence, we would not have got here.
But don't you think it would be in our "best interest" to care for the environment?

And here's an idea. What do you think about the possibility of science and religion getting together and starting some sort of grass roots organization?

If you're interested, please check out the thread The Center of Existence.
 
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What do you think of materialism and science staying close together, and religious people convert themselves to that new outlook on reality, and drop the ancient one.
 
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Originally posted by heusdens
What do you think of materialism and science staying close together, and religious people convert themselves to that new outlook on reality, and drop the ancient one.
No, because science represents the mind and religion represents the heart, and you really can't have a whole human being unless you have both.

Anyway the trend is pretty much going this way already, and yet I think if science were to adopt one or two tenets about religion, then maybe the religious people could align themselves more with science and be more pragmatic about their stay here on earth, and then maybe we could put "our hearts" where only our mind is right now (about cleaning up the planet).
 
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Iachus32:

My heart is with science, not with religion.
 

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Nah, I say the AI companys need to focus on a robot to clean up the envrioment for us.

Atleast, there is more of a chance of that happening.
 

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