Comparing Relativistic and Classical Doppler Shifts

In summary, the second order term in the relativistic doppler shift, (v/c)^2, is much smaller compared to the total classical Doppler Shift for an observer receding away from the source. This can be seen by performing a binomial expansion of the square root term in the relativistic equation and comparing it to the classical equation.
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uestion is How does the second order term in teh relativistic doppler shift (v/c)^2 compare to the total classical Doppler Shift for the observer receeding away from the source?


now the doppler shift (relativistic) is [tex] \Delta f = |f_{0} (1-\sqrt{\frac{1-\beta}{1+\beta}})|[/tex]

for the classical shift it is

[tex] \Delta f = |f_{0} (1-\frac{v_{rel}}{v}-1)| = | f_{0} \frac{v_{rel}}{v}|[/tex]

but i don't see a (v/c)^2 term anywhere? How am i supposed to do this??
refers to part E opf this thread
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=64390
 
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Do a binomial expansion of:
[tex] \sqrt{\frac{1-\beta}{1+\beta}} = \frac{\sqrt{1-\beta^2}}{1+\beta}[/tex]
 
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The second order term in the relativistic Doppler shift, (v/c)^2, is a correction factor that accounts for the effects of time dilation and length contraction in special relativity. It becomes significant when the relative velocity between the source and observer is close to the speed of light (c).

In contrast, the classical Doppler shift does not take into account the effects of special relativity and is based on the assumption that the relative velocity (v) between the source and observer is much smaller than the speed of light. This is why the classical Doppler shift equation does not have a (v/c)^2 term.

To compare the second order term in the relativistic Doppler shift to the total classical Doppler shift, we can take the limit as the relative velocity (v) approaches the speed of light (c). In this case, the (v/c)^2 term becomes significant and the relativistic Doppler shift equation reduces to:

Δf = |f₀(1-1)| = 0

This means that for an observer moving at the speed of light relative to the source, there is no Doppler shift at all, in contrast to the classical Doppler shift which would still give a non-zero value.

In summary, the second order term in the relativistic Doppler shift becomes significant at high velocities close to the speed of light, while the classical Doppler shift remains valid at lower velocities. Therefore, the two equations are not directly comparable and must be used in different scenarios depending on the relative velocity between the source and observer.
 

1. What is the difference between relativistic and classical Doppler shifts?

The main difference between relativistic and classical Doppler shifts is that relativistic Doppler shift takes into account the effects of special relativity, such as time dilation and length contraction, while classical Doppler shift does not. This means that relativistic Doppler shift is more accurate and can be used for objects moving at speeds close to the speed of light.

2. How does the formula for relativistic Doppler shift differ from the classical formula?

The formula for relativistic Doppler shift takes into account the effects of special relativity, while the classical formula does not. The relativistic formula also includes the Lorentz factor, which accounts for the time dilation and length contraction effects. This makes the relativistic formula more complex, but also more accurate for high-speed objects.

3. What are some real-world examples of relativistic and classical Doppler shifts?

A common example of classical Doppler shift is the change in frequency of sound waves as a source moves towards or away from an observer. An example of relativistic Doppler shift is the change in frequency of light emitted from a star as it moves towards or away from Earth at high speeds.

4. Can relativistic Doppler shift be applied to all objects in motion?

Relativistic Doppler shift can be applied to all objects in motion, but it is most accurate for objects moving at speeds close to the speed of light. For slower moving objects, the effects of special relativity are negligible and the classical Doppler shift formula can be used instead.

5. How does the concept of time dilation affect the relativistic Doppler shift?

The concept of time dilation, which is a result of special relativity, affects the relativistic Doppler shift by changing the perception of time for observers in different frames of reference. This means that the frequency of light emitted from a moving source will appear to be different for observers in different frames of reference, leading to a different observed Doppler shift.

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