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Dr. Tom Cruise says no to psychiatry

  1. Jun 25, 2005 #1

    Pengwuino

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    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-06/25/content_454551.htm

    Anyone think he actually read more then 3 lines?

    And i swaer if i see this guys face one more time, someones gonna hve to put me on ridalin.
     
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  3. Jun 25, 2005 #2

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    ADD and ADHD is not due to a chemical imbalance in the brain, last I read about Ritalin research

    Edit: ah scrap that.. last time I was digging on Ritalin was in 2002.. new research indicates:

     
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  4. Jun 25, 2005 #3

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    I caught the clip of that interview that has been rebroadcast on other shows. Sure, he might have read them, but does he have the mental capacity to understand them? Actually, I wonder if he even knows that there's more to an article than the abstract. Lots of people know PubMed exists and look up stuff there, but don't know that only shows the abstract and you have to read the rest of the article elsewhere.

    I'm sure he's just trying to build publicity for The War of the Worlds coming out soon (or is it out already). It's a shame, because I might have gone to see that movie if he wasn't in a lead role, but I can be almost assured of a disappointing performance now, so won't be bothering. Even if I was tempted to see it anyway, I think I'll boycott his movies for his activism against science. Too many Hollywood airheads are jumping on the anti-science bandwagon, and I think it's time to remind them to keep their noses out of issues they don't understand.
     
  5. Jun 25, 2005 #4
    ahh man is there anyway I can get a video of this ??
    I love seeing what a complete prat this guy is.
    He went off at a 60 minutes host here because he said "so what do you think of people who say scientology is rubbish?" :)
     
  6. Jun 25, 2005 #5

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    So, another victim of Scientology. No wonder Cruise has been acting so nutty.
     
  7. Jun 25, 2005 #6

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    well wait a minute there sport..

    lets debunk his claims one at a time instead of completely degrading his ideas

    in science classes they dont teach you that god doesnt exist or that there are no chakras - they teach you completely different things and concepts and you extrapolate everything after your first physics class and some even say that they are sure there is no god and no heaven - well ok perhaps, but you werent taught that in class

    science is as exact as we could have achieved exactness due our understanding and capabilities. maybe there is something to the claims about the supernatural and idea of a separate consciousness.. nobody can say for certain where our mind has originated and the purpose of humanity in general
     
  8. Jun 25, 2005 #7

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    I didn't say anything about God or the supernatural.
     
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  9. Jun 25, 2005 #8

    Ivan Seeking

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    I have known two people who really got screwed up by Hubbard's program.
     
  10. Jun 25, 2005 #9

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    Not a video, but the transcript of his interview:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8343367/
    You can spare yourself some boredom and skip the first page. The discussion of antidepressants and other psychiatry topics begins about midway down on page 2. I think I'll write to the Today Show and suggest that after that interview, they need to bring in an expert on depression and/or ADHD to offer a rebuttal and to properly educate their audience on the drugs and why they are prescribed.

    You know, it's very common for those who need psychiatric help to reject psychiatry.
     
  11. Jun 25, 2005 #10

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    I remember reading an expose about Scientology years ago. They believe that every human has alien spirits in them. :uhh:

    If you don't know what Scientology is, read this. :rofl:

    "75 million years ago, there was an alien galactic ruler named Xenu who was in charge of 76 planets in our part of the galaxy, including our own planet Earth, whose name at that time was Teegeeack."

    http://www.skeptictank.org/gen3/gen01985.htm
     
  12. Jun 25, 2005 #11

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    well every religion needs a mythical plot that simply never happened like jesus or mohammed or in this case some alien ruler
     
  13. Jun 25, 2005 #12

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    This is a cult, not a religion. It was huge in the 70's and 80's in California and a lot damage was done. One of the people I mentioned worked with Tsu and I. We had known her for at least a couple of years when she got into Scientology. Her personality changed almost overnight. AFAIK she was never the same; and not for the better by any measure.
     
  14. Jun 25, 2005 #13

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    Well, Jesus and Mohammed were real people, so I am assuming Xenu was real too.
     
  15. Jun 25, 2005 #14

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    The documentary was pretty scary. It showed people that tried to get out of Scientology and were threatened and harassed. They do not let go of you. It is a cult. Did you read my link? :bugeye:
     
  16. Jun 25, 2005 #15

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    I'm going to make a SWAG and predict that we see Tom Cruise completely melt down. Well, that's bascially what we're seeing now, but I'll bet it gets a lot worse unless he gets smart in a hurry.
     
  17. Jun 25, 2005 #16

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    He does seem a bit out of control lately.

    I never liked him.
     
  18. Jun 25, 2005 #17

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    Oh, actually no, I thought it said skeptic.org, which I did already check.

    I think you will find that the doctrine varies according to whom you ask, but yes, that all sounds about right.

    The first girl that I ever took on a date - my best friend's sister - got into Scientology. IMO it was one step along the road to self destruction. I attended her funeral a few years ago - heroin overdose.
     
  19. Jun 25, 2005 #18

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    Does anyone know who the sponsors are for War of the Worlds? I've decided I'm going to take a stand against the anti-science Hollywood crowd. I've got a letter drafted to send to Paramount informing them I will not see this movie or any others starring Tom Cruise unless they publicly announce that they don't endorse his anti-science claims and he publicly retracts his statements made on the Today Show. I want to inform their sponsors of the same (since I don't expect Tom Cruise to issue a retraction, I will only hold the sponsors responsible for pressuring Paramount to make it clear that his statements are unrelated to their position regarding science). I'm going to take a wild guess that at least some of their sponsorship relies on science for product formulation (doesn't every big film have product placement from one of the big cola companies?), but I want to know which ones to write to. It will sound better in my letter to Paramount if I can name some of their sponsors.

    There's too much anti-science sentiment and promotion of pseudoscience fluff coming out of Hollywood anymore, and it's time they be called on it.

    I also wrote to the Today Show asking them to produce a segment featuring experts on either depression or ADD/ADHD as damage control following Tom Cruise's statements. It would be nice to see an interview where the current scientific understanding is explained along with the cautions regarding misuse of the medications. Get both sides of the story out, but in a responsible way, not a fear-mongering, anti-science way.
     
  20. Jun 25, 2005 #19

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    I find it strange that traditional religion gets so much more respect than Raelians, Scientology etc...

    A statement like: "Scientology is ridiculous" seems no different to me than "Christianity is ridiculous"
     
  21. Jun 25, 2005 #20

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    Based on the number of locked threads on religion, I'm not sure they do get more respect, at least not here.
     
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