Determining Drag Coefficient & Downforce of Spoilers

In summary, the conversation discusses the design and testing of a device for determining the drag coefficient and down force of a spoiler without the use of a wind tunnel. The suggestion is made to use the software X-Foil for theoretical values and to conduct experiments using a pickup truck or a wind tunnel. The importance of obtaining meaningful data and the potential variations in the drag coefficient are also mentioned.
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Wouter
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Hi

I am a mechanical engineering student currently busy with my final year project on spoilers I need to design manufacture and test a device to test different spoilers it must determine the drag coefficient of the spoiler and the down force generated by the spoiler without the use of an windtonnel can anybody help me with ideas to determine these 2 aspects but I have limited resources it would help me alot.

Thanx you
 
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Look into xfoil. A spoiler is essentially an airfoil anyway.
 
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Without a wind tunnel? Do you mean you'll be driving around with it on a car?

I suppose you could model it, but then the software will do it all for you (not necessarily very well though).

So far as down force goes, you could simply attach it to a rig which is capable of moving (pivoting / compressing) and use some form of compression sensor (clever use of a strain gauge if you want it cheap) to record the downforce produced. (If you want really simple and cheap, just hook up a simple spring Newton Meter - a spring with a gauge in Newtons - to it so that it compresses and gives you the force downwards.)
 
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Yes it must fit onto the back of n pickup truck but I think the most difficult part of all is a way to successfully determine the drag coefficient of the spoiler
 
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Wouter said:
Yes it must fit onto the back of n pickup truck but I think the most difficult part of all is a way to successfully determine the drag coefficient of the spoiler

XFoil will do it fairly accurately. Seriously. Unless you are specifically told to do it experimentally, I don't know why you don't just do this.

http://web.mit.edu/drela/Public/web/xfoil/
 
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I can use if for theoretical values but I must determine it experimentally
 
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Wouter said:
I can use if for theoretical values but I must determine it experimentally

Wirecut profile from foam.
Measure surface finish.
Test it in a wind tunnel.
Compare to X-foil output.

Your aerofoil won't have a single Cd value, it'll alter with angle of attack.
There is little point in testing unless you can get meaningful data.

Why would testing it in a windtunnel be better than testing it on the back of a truck?
 

1. What is the purpose of determining drag coefficient and downforce of spoilers?

The purpose of determining drag coefficient and downforce of spoilers is to understand the aerodynamic performance of a vehicle's spoiler. This information can be used to optimize the design of a spoiler for maximum downforce and minimum drag, which can improve the handling and stability of the vehicle.

2. How is the drag coefficient of a spoiler calculated?

The drag coefficient of a spoiler can be calculated by dividing the drag force by the dynamic pressure and the frontal area of the spoiler. The drag force can be measured through wind tunnel testing or by using computational fluid dynamics (CFD) simulations. The dynamic pressure is a function of the vehicle's airspeed and air density, while the frontal area is the cross-sectional area of the spoiler facing the oncoming air flow.

3. What factors affect the downforce of a spoiler?

The downforce of a spoiler is affected by several factors, including the angle of the spoiler, the shape and size of the spoiler, the speed of the vehicle, and the air density. A steeper angle and a larger spoiler can generate more downforce, while a higher speed and lower air density can also increase downforce.

4. How does the shape of a spoiler affect its aerodynamic performance?

The shape of a spoiler plays a crucial role in its aerodynamic performance. A spoiler with a curved or angled shape can create a low-pressure zone on top of the spoiler, which helps to reduce drag and increase downforce. Additionally, the shape can also affect the separation of airflow, which can impact the spoiler's overall aerodynamic efficiency.

5. Can the drag coefficient and downforce of a spoiler be improved?

Yes, the drag coefficient and downforce of a spoiler can be improved through careful design and testing. By adjusting the angle, shape, and size of a spoiler, and using CFD simulations and wind tunnel testing, engineers can optimize the spoiler's performance to achieve the desired balance between downforce and drag. Additionally, using lightweight materials and minimizing the weight of the spoiler can also help to improve its overall aerodynamic efficiency.

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