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Earthrace - [Destroyed today!]

  1. Jun 13, 2006 #1

    Ivan Seeking

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    http://www.solarnavigator.net/earthrace.htm

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  3. Aug 7, 2006 #2

    Ivan Seeking

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    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003176794_weirdboat05m.html

    A little late for anyone in Seattle but it was in the news.
     
  4. Aug 7, 2006 #3

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    I'm not prepared to support rape at all, even if it is good for the environment.
     
  5. Aug 7, 2006 #4
    Yes, this is exactly the kind of publicity biofuels need - get a bunch of lazy millionares onto a yacht and send them on a joyride. This is obviously the perfect solution to all the world's energy problems - if everyone would commute to work in a $1,25 million boat, they could save two bucks a gallon in fuel costs, while reducing their CO2 emissions by 40%. Of course, the energy and materials going into a million dollars' worth of carbon fiber is trivial, don't worry about it!

    This is true environmentalism for you.
     
  6. Aug 7, 2006 #5

    Ivan Seeking

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    Um, the point is to promote the technology. When these engines start setting records and winning LeMans, as one just did, diesel will be more readily accepted into the market as a viable alternative to gasoline power. Also, any industry is driven by money. Publicity gets money.

    Biofuels are carbon neutral; or nearly so anyway.
     
  7. Aug 7, 2006 #6
    What does diesel have to do with anything?

    A viable infrastructure for biofuels, with market-ready consumer vehicles, would be much better publicity. This makes about as much sense as GWB rolling around in a hydrogen-powered golf cart, when there's next to zero H infrastructure. Doesn't really sell anything, when there's nothing to sell.

    I love biofuels. It's these crazy stunts which annoy me.
     
  8. Aug 7, 2006 #7

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    But you need the crazy stunts to get the attention of Average Joe Schmuck.
     
  9. Aug 7, 2006 #8

    Ivan Seeking

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    He is running a diesel engine on biodiesel. Both lack market acceptance in the US. Honda is hitting the US market with a diesel hybrid this year, and biodiesel is quickly coming of age, but many people are still fairly clueless.

    I think I understand what frustrates you in that this is a publicity stunt, but I also think that publicity has its place and is necessary [valuable to the effort]. Races and record setting have always played a key role in the evolution of new engine technolgies.
     
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  10. Aug 7, 2006 #9

    Ivan Seeking

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    When a diesel recently won a leg of LeMans, the guy who told me said that he could barely quit laughing. It is a perception issue.
    http://www.dieselforecast.com/
     
  11. Nov 28, 2006 #10

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    A kindred project

    http://www.alcoa.com/global/en/news/news_detail.asp?pageID=20061031005605en&newsYear=2006

    A biodiesel powered jet car? That is the way to a young man's heart! :biggrin:
     
  12. Nov 28, 2006 #11

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    Wow, that's one cool looking boat! I wonder if there's room on the river for it here. :biggrin: Maybe when it hits the east coast, I'll have to take a drive out to see it (hopefully it'll head into Baltimore as one of it's stops, since that's closest for me).

    Edit: Darn! I just looked at the planned route, and he isn't even coming up the East coast at all. :mad:
     
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  13. Nov 28, 2006 #12
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    Thats not a boat, its a fighter jet.
     
  14. Nov 28, 2006 #13

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    Yeah, but I gotta give him one thing: he is right that he has the coolest boat in the world.
     
  15. Nov 28, 2006 #14

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    One little catch, though: the vast majority of marine engines are diesel. So whether or not they are accepted in cars isn't all that relevant - he isn't driving a car and the only thing he's doing that is unusual is using diesel from a different source than other boaters.

    Regardless, promoting diesel itself is not his goal. His goal is simply promoting biodiesel.
     
  16. Nov 28, 2006 #15

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    :rofl: I don't care! I'd still love to see the inside of it! I was really hoping he'd travel up the East Coast with it...I'm sure several PFers would have enjoyed a gathering to see that boat!
     
  17. Nov 28, 2006 #16

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    Oooh! What I would give to pilot that baby!!!
     
  18. Nov 29, 2006 #17

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    I didn't even consider that would ever be an option, but who knows, maybe if I offer to hang around on deck in a bikini with Bethune, he'd agree to let you pilot the boat for a bit (though, we probably aren't allowed to tell his wife who's at home trying to pay the bills for the thing :uhh:). I'd be happy to just get a ride on that boat!
     
  19. Nov 29, 2006 #18

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    Is there a "ladies of pf" calendar in our future...?
     
  20. Nov 29, 2006 #19

    Moonbear

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    What, you're not happy with the PF Nuns with Guns calendar? :biggrin:
     
  21. Nov 29, 2006 #20
    Thongs, anyone?
     
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