Proof of Density: D = dyadic rationals set is dense on [0,1] | Homework Help

In summary, the conversation is discussing how to prove that the set of dyadic rationals is dense on the interval [0,1]. One person suggests using extremal inequalities, but the other person argues that the Archimedian property and a Pigenhole Principle argument would be more effective.
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Prove that D={[tex]\frac{m}{2^{n}}[/tex] : n[tex]\in[/tex] N , m=0,1,2,...,2[tex]^{n}[/tex]} (dyatic rationals set) is dense on [0,1] , i.e. if (a,b) [tex]\subset[/tex] [0,1] then (a,b) [tex]\bigcap[/tex] D [tex]\neq[/tex] emptyset

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Is it wrong if I just state that because a,b[tex]\in[/tex][tex]\Re[/tex] we know that there exists m,n[tex]\in[/tex]N, l=[tex]\frac{m}{2^{n+1}}[/tex], u=[tex]\frac{m}{2^{n-1}}[/tex] and r=[tex]\frac{m}{2^{n}}[/tex] such that l [tex]\leq[/tex] a [tex]\leq[/tex] r [tex]\leq[/tex] b [tex]\leq[/tex] u?
 
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Why do you need the extremal inequalities? You should only need [itex] a \leq r \leq b [/itex]. Also it seems like you are trying to say "Because a and b are real, its is obvious there are naturals m,n that allow us to conclude the result", which really is not substantial enough.

Instead, I would use the Archimedian property to argue where there exists [itex] n \in \mathbb{N} [/itex] such that [tex] b-a < \frac{1}{2^n} [/tex], then you a Pigenhole Principle type argument to see why D should intersect with (a,b) .
 

1. What is the dyadic rationals set?

The dyadic rationals set is a subset of the rational numbers, which are numbers that can be expressed as a ratio of two integers. The dyadic rationals are numbers that can be expressed as a fraction where the denominator is a power of 2.

2. How is the dyadic rationals set related to the proof of density?

The dyadic rationals set is used in the proof of density to show that there are infinitely many rational numbers between any two real numbers. This helps to demonstrate that the dyadic rationals set is dense on the interval [0,1], meaning that there are no gaps or jumps in the set.

3. What does it mean for a set to be dense?

A set is considered dense if it contains elements that are arbitrarily close to each other. In other words, between any two points in the set, there is always another point. This is important in mathematics because it helps to show that a set is continuous and has no gaps.

4. How is the density of the dyadic rationals set proven on the interval [0,1]?

The density of the dyadic rationals set on the interval [0,1] is proven by showing that for any two real numbers a and b in [0,1], there exists a dyadic rational number c such that a < c < b. This is done by using the binary expansion of real numbers and showing that there are infinitely many dyadic rational numbers between any two real numbers.

5. Why is the proof of density important in mathematics?

The proof of density is important in mathematics because it helps to show that there are no gaps or jumps in a set, which is crucial for understanding continuity and completeness. It is also a fundamental concept in real analysis, which is used in many areas of mathematics and science.

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