Find Mass of Unknown Particle in Elastic Collision

In summary, a proton of mass 'm' collides with a particle of unknown mass at rest, resulting in the proton and unknown particle moving at a 90 degree angle with respect to each other. Using conservation of energy and momentum, it is possible to determine that the mass of the unknown particle is equal to the mass of the proton. A simpler method of solving this problem involves using momentum vectors and the fact that the final momentums are perpendicular.
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[SOLVED] Elastic collision

Homework Statement


A proton of mass 'm' collides with a particle of unknown mass at rest. After the collision, the proton and the unknown particle are seen moving at an angle of 90 degrees with respect to each other. What is the mass of the unknown particle.

Known quantities:
mass of proton = m
velocity of proton = v
mass of unknown particle = M
Angle between M and m after collision is 90 degrees. [itex]\alpha + \beta = {\pi \over 2}[/itex]

Homework Equations



Conservation of Momentum. Momentum must be conserved in x and y-direction:
X-direction:
[tex]mv = mv'\cos \alpha + Mv'\cos \beta[/tex]

Y-direction:
[tex] 0 = mv'\sin \alpha + Mv'\sin \beta [/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Since the angle between the particles is known i.e. 90 degrees,
[itex] \beta = {\pi \over 2} - \alpha[/itex] & [itex]\cos ({\pi \over 2} - \alpha) = \sin \alpha[/itex].

The momentum conservation equations modify as:
X-direction:
[tex]mv = mv'\cos \alpha + Mv'\sin \alpha[/tex]

Y-direction:
[tex] 0 = mv'\sin \alpha + Mv'\cos \alpha [/tex]

I am not able to proceed beyond this, I have two unknown quantities on the Right-Side viz. [itex]\alpha[/itex] and the final velocity v'. I have to obtain the unknown mass in terms of m. Am I missing out something here?
 

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Hi Reshma! :smile:

(btw, don't you need a separate v' and V' ?)

You can't solve any collision problems without using conservation of energy! :smile:
 
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Thanks for the hint tiny-tim! I will work on it. :smile:
 
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Okay, I figured it out!

Let m and M move at speeds v' and V' respectively.

By conservation of energy:
[tex]{1\over 2}mv^2 = {1\over 2}mv'^2 + {1\over 2}MV'^2[/tex]

On simplification, we get:
[tex]v^2 = v'^2 + {m\over M}V'^2[/tex]

Conservation of momentum along the X-axis gives:
[tex]mv = mv'\cos \alpha + MV'\sin \alpha[/tex]

Multiplying by v on both sides and comparing with the energy conservation equation:
[tex]mv^2 = mv'v\cos \alpha + MV'v\sin \alpha[/tex]

We get [itex]v' = v\cos \alpha[/itex] & [itex]V' = v\sin \alpha[/itex], so
[tex]v^2 = v'^2 + V'^2[/tex]

On comparing the coefficients, we get:
[tex]m = M[/tex]
 
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This was an objective type question, however is there a method to solve such a problem with lesser algebra?
 
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Reshma said:
This was an objective type question, however is there a method to solve such a problem with lesser algebra?

Hi Reshma! :smile:

Actually, there is.

Since we know in this case that the final momentums are perpendicular, it seems a good idea to try solving it using the momentum vectors.

If we call those vectors P Q and R, we know that P = Q + R, and in this case that Q.R = 0.

Try writing the energy equation in terms of the momentum vectors, and then comparing it with the square of P = Q + R. :smile:
 
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Thanks for your help tiny-tim! :smile:
 

1. How do you determine the mass of an unknown particle in an elastic collision?

In order to determine the mass of an unknown particle in an elastic collision, you will need to collect and analyze data from the collision. This can include measuring the velocities of the particles before and after the collision, as well as the angles at which they collide. From this data, you can use the principles of conservation of momentum and conservation of kinetic energy to calculate the mass of the unknown particle.

2. What is an elastic collision?

An elastic collision is a type of collision where both the total momentum and the total kinetic energy of the system are conserved. This means that the particles involved do not stick together or lose energy during the collision, but instead bounce off each other with no loss of energy.

3. What is the difference between an elastic and an inelastic collision?

In an elastic collision, the total momentum and kinetic energy of the system are conserved, while in an inelastic collision, some of the energy is lost in the form of heat or deformation. Inelastic collisions can also result in the particles sticking together after the collision, while elastic collisions do not.

4. Can the mass of an unknown particle be calculated in all types of collisions?

No, the mass of an unknown particle can only be calculated in elastic collisions. In inelastic collisions, some of the energy is lost and cannot be accounted for in the calculations. However, if the collision is close to being elastic, the calculated mass may still be a good approximation.

5. Are there any limitations to calculating the mass of an unknown particle in an elastic collision?

Yes, there are some limitations to this method of calculating the mass of an unknown particle. The accuracy of the calculation depends on the accuracy of the data collected, and small errors in measurement can lead to significant differences in the calculated mass. Additionally, this method assumes that there are no external forces acting on the system, which may not always be the case in real-world scenarios.

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