Electric potential in cylindrical coordinates using separation of variables

In summary: V0 is the potential difference and we can find Q using Gauss's law. We can also find the total charge on each half-cylinder by integrating the charge density over the surface. Dividing these two values, we can find the capacitance per unit length.For Problem #2, we can use a similar method as Problem #1. Since the potential is zero at the boundaries phi = 0 and phi = pi/2, we can set those values in our solution and find the coefficients. We also know that V = V0 when r = R, so we can use that to find the coefficients as well. Our final solution for the potential becomes V(r,phi) = sum of V0*(1-r/R)*cos
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Hi, I am new to the forum. I've encountered a couple problems with separation of variables in cylindrical coordinates.

Problem #1: a clindrical surface of radius R is oriented along the z-axis, and is split into two
conducting half-cylinders. The potential satisfies the boundary conditions
V(R,phi) = V0 , for 0<phi<pi; V(R,phi) = -V0, for pi<phi<2*pi. Find the potential
inside and outside the cylinder and the capacitance per unit length.

For this problem, I know the general solution is independent of z, namely V(r,phi) and it contains sin(n*phi), cos(n*phi) and r^n terms. But how to find the coefficients using the boundary condition confuses me. Is it necessary to assume V->0 as r -> infinity? Please
help!

Problem #2: an empty can haas the shape of a sector of a cylinder. The volume of the can
is defined by the cylindrical coordinates: 0<= r <= R, 0<= phi <= pi/2, -inf<z<inf
Basically one quarter of a cylinder in the first quadrant with boundary conditions
(i) V= 0 when phi = 0; (ii) V = 0 when phi = pi/2; (iii) V= V0 when r = R. Find the
potential everywhere inside the can.

For this problem, I know it's similar to the first problem except the boundary conditions.
maybe even simpler because of the zero potential. but I still have no idea how to approach this problem. Thank you for your help.
 
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Hello and welcome to the forum! Separation of variables in cylindrical coordinates can definitely be tricky, but with some practice and guidance, it can become easier to understand.

For Problem #1, we can start by looking at the general solution you mentioned: V(r,phi) = sum of (A_n*r^n + B_n*r^(-n))*(C_n*cos(n*phi) + D_n*sin(n*phi)). Since we are dealing with a cylindrical surface, we can assume that the potential is independent of z, as you mentioned. This means that the coefficients A_n and B_n will be zero. So our solution becomes V(r,phi) = sum of C_n*cos(n*phi) + D_n*sin(n*phi).

Now, we can use the boundary conditions to find the coefficients C_n and D_n. For 0 < phi < pi, we know that the potential is V0, so we can set phi = 0 and phi = pi in our solution and equate them to V0. This will give us two equations: C_n = V0 and -C_n = V0. Since these two equations contradict each other, we can conclude that there is no solution that satisfies both boundary conditions. This means that V(r,phi) = V0 is not a valid solution for 0 < phi < pi. A similar argument can be made for pi < phi < 2*pi.

For the potential inside the cylinder, we can use the boundary condition at r = R to find the coefficients. We know that V(R,phi) = V0 for 0 < phi < pi and V(R,phi) = -V0 for pi < phi < 2*pi. This means that C_n = V0 and -C_n = -V0, so C_n = V0. For the potential outside the cylinder, we can use the boundary condition at r = infinity to find the coefficients. Since we assume that V -> 0 as r -> infinity, this means that D_n = 0. Therefore, our final solution for the potential becomes V(r,phi) = sum of V0*cos(n*phi).

To find the capacitance per unit length, we can use the formula C = Q/V, where Q is the charge on each half-cylinder and V is the potential difference between them. Since V(R,phi) = V0 and V(infinity,phi) = 0,
 
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Hello and welcome to the forum! Separation of variables is a useful technique for solving potential problems in cylindrical coordinates. In this technique, we assume that the potential can be expressed as a product of functions that depend only on one variable each. For cylindrical coordinates, the potential can be expressed as V(r,phi,z) = R(r)*Φ(phi)*Z(z). Then, we can use the Laplace equation to solve for each of these functions separately.

For problem #1, we can start by solving for the potential inside the cylinder, where r < R. Using the boundary condition V(R,phi) = V0, we can set the potential function equal to V0 and solve for the coefficients of the sine and cosine terms. Similarly, for the outside of the cylinder, where r > R, we can use the boundary condition V(R,phi) = -V0 to solve for the coefficients. As for the capacitance per unit length, we can use the formula C = Q/V, where Q is the charge on one half-cylinder and V is the potential difference between the two half-cylinders.

For problem #2, we can use the same approach as problem #1. However, since the boundary conditions are different, we will get different coefficients for the sine and cosine terms. We can use the boundary condition V= 0 when phi = 0 to solve for the coefficients of the sine terms, and V = 0 when phi = pi/2 to solve for the coefficients of the cosine terms. Then, for the boundary condition V= V0 when r = R, we can set the potential function equal to V0 and solve for the coefficients of the r^n terms. This will give us the potential everywhere inside the can.

It is not necessary to assume V->0 as r->infinity in these problems. The boundary conditions are sufficient to determine the coefficients and the potential function within the specified region. I hope this helps in solving these problems. Let me know if you have any further questions. Happy problem solving!
 

1. What is electric potential in cylindrical coordinates using separation of variables?

Electric potential in cylindrical coordinates using separation of variables is a method for solving problems involving electric potential in a cylindrical coordinate system. It involves separating the variables of the electric potential equation into a radial component and a vertical component, and then solving the resulting equations separately.

2. Why is it important to use cylindrical coordinates for electric potential problems?

Cylindrical coordinates are useful for electric potential problems because they are well-suited for problems that have cylindrical symmetry, such as those involving cylindrical conductors or wires. They also allow for easier visualization and calculation of electric potential in these types of systems.

3. How is the electric potential equation in cylindrical coordinates derived?

The electric potential equation in cylindrical coordinates is derived from the general electric potential equation in Cartesian coordinates using a transformation of variables. This transformation involves converting the Cartesian coordinates (x, y, z) into cylindrical coordinates (ρ, φ, z).

4. What are the limitations of using separation of variables for solving electric potential problems?

While separation of variables is a useful method for solving electric potential problems in cylindrical coordinates, it does have limitations. It can only be used for problems with certain types of boundary conditions, and it may not be applicable for more complex systems with non-cylindrical symmetry.

5. Are there any practical applications of using separation of variables for electric potential problems?

Yes, separation of variables is commonly used in practical applications such as designing electrical circuits and analyzing the electric potential in cylindrical conductors or wires. It is also used in other fields such as fluid mechanics and heat transfer to solve similar types of partial differential equations.

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