Electron Repulsion in QFT: How Does It Work in Quantum Field Theory?

In summary: But I don't think it would be very helpful for answering your question, since it would just give you a more detailed description of how the Coulomb potential works, and you're asking about something else.In summary, virtual photons are not real particles, but are instead just lines that appear in a pictorial representation of a Dyson series. Electrons push each other away in the same way as they do in regular QM. Virtual photons are not to be treated like "real" particles - remember what I said they are really just lines that appear in a pictorial representation of a Dyson series.
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How do electrons repel each other in quantum field theory? Virtual photon - is it just a mathematics?
 
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Philipsmett said:
How do electrons repel each other in quantum field theory?

Same way they do in regular QM.
 
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This is not an easy question to answer even at the I level. And I would describe my knowledge of QED as at the intermediate level from books like the following:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/019969933X/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Because of that I usually let others answer this one, but now feel that it gets asked often enough I should really have a take on it. I presume you have read all the usual I level stuff to do with exchange of virtual particles etc. Forget those answers - they are at best a half truth and IMHO actually misleading. Virtual particles are simply not the same as actual particles - technically they are the lines in a pictorial representation of a Dyson series:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_series

I came across the the best answer I have seen on another site and will paraphrase it here. Virtual photons are not little balls that two particles shoot at each other. So when two electrons push each other away it’s NOT like two people shooting tennis balls at each other and getting moved by the recoil. Virtual photons are not to be treated like ‘real’ particles - remember what I said they are really just lines that appear in a pictorial representation of a Dyson series. One way of looking at them is they are like “perturbations” in the EM field caused by the presence of a charged particle. The attractive and repulsive force derive from the 'interference' of these perturbations as described in John Baez's excellent article already posted by Nugatory.

That's about the best I can do at the I level. If you want something better then you can have a look at the first few chapters of Zee's textbook on QFT where he gives a fully quantum explanation:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0691140340/?tag=pfamazon01-20

A word of warning though - I have a copy of that textbook and once thought it very good just as most of the reviews say. Nowadays I am not so sure - IMHO Zee glosses over many important issues and basically oversimplifies a complex subject. Just my view.

My recommendation to learn QFT are (in the following order - although the first two can be read in any order)
Quantum Field Theory for the Gifted Amateur:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/019969933X/?tag=pfamazon01-20
Student Friendly Quantum Field Theory:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0984513957/?tag=pfamazon01-20
Mark Srednicki - Quantum Field Theory
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521864496/?tag=pfamazon01-20

This is just a build up to IMHO the best, but unfortunately more advanced text by Weinberg:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521670535/?tag=pfamazon01-20

I personally have read a number of books on QFT and speak from experience in those recommendations. I personally am working on Srednicki right now and hope to get onto Weinberg eventually. But I am 63 and not getting any younger - so we will need to see what eventually happens in my case.

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Bill
 
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@Philipsmett, are you familiar with path integrals? In my opinion, answering your question is not so hard if one considers electrons to be non-dynamical sources of charge coupled to a free electromagnetic field - then one can show that the potential between two such sources is Coulomb's potential, with the overall sign given by the product of the charges. This is what Zee's book does, if you can get a hold of that.

Of course, this is just an approximation - real electrons are dynamical, and this effect causes QED to be highly nonlinear and nontrivial, leading to corrections to Coulomb's potential. But these corrections turn out to be small enough that they don't change whether the interaction is repulsive/attractive, so this leading-order calculation gives good intuition.

If you're somewhat familiar with how to write down a QFT in a path integral, I can go through the derivation (which I think is very similar to what you'd find in Zee if I remember correctly).
 
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1. What is electron repulsion in QFT?

Electron repulsion in QFT (Quantum Field Theory) refers to the phenomenon where two electrons, due to their negative charges, experience a force of repulsion when they come into close proximity with each other.

2. How is electron repulsion explained in QFT?

In QFT, electron repulsion is explained through the exchange of virtual photons between the two electrons. These virtual photons carry the electromagnetic force, causing the electrons to repel each other.

3. How does electron repulsion affect the behavior of electrons?

Electron repulsion plays a crucial role in determining the behavior and interactions of electrons in atoms and molecules. It is responsible for the stability of matter and the formation of chemical bonds between atoms.

4. Can electron repulsion be overcome or cancelled out?

In QFT, electron repulsion cannot be completely cancelled out, but it can be counteracted by the attractive forces between the electrons and the positively charged protons in an atom. This results in the formation of stable atoms and molecules.

5. How is electron repulsion related to the concept of quantum entanglement?

In quantum mechanics, the concept of electron repulsion is closely related to the phenomenon of quantum entanglement, where the properties of two or more particles become correlated and cannot be described independently. In the case of electron repulsion, the spin and charge of the electrons become entangled, affecting their behavior and interactions.

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