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It can be source voltage but precisely, it is the total voltage across the series combination.gracy said:V in is always the emf of source
It can be source voltage but precisely, it is the total voltage across the series combination.gracy said:V in is always the emf of source
Refer to the derivation that you copied. The derivation used the fact that all the resistors in a series string share the same current. Then Ohm's law can be used with that current to find the voltage across anyone of the resistors in the string. It happened to be R2 in this example.gracy said:I want to understand what the formula means how to use it
at the left side there will be voltage across the numerator on right side.
V in is always the emf of source
and denominator on the right side would be sum of all the component(resistance or capacitor) present.
numerator on the right side is always the component (resistance or capacitor) across which we want to find the voltage i.e V present on left side.
Capacitors in Series all have the same current flowing through themgneill said:Now, what is the common factor shared by all capacitors in a series string?
Right. But current ceases in steady state. What else is common?gracy said:Capacitors in Series all have the same current flowing through them
Correct for resistors and inductors and not capacitors, as I said in #70.gracy said:Please tell me am I correct in#68 that
Here in the following equation
on the left side there is voltage across the numerator on right side.
V in is always the emf of source
and denominator on the right side would be sum of all the component(resistance or capacitor) present.
numerator on the right side is always the component (resistance or capacitor) across which we want to find the voltage i.e V present on left side.
See post #72.gracy said:Please tell me am I correct in#68 that...
The equivalent charge is the same as the individual charges.cnh1995 said:What else is common?
Right.gracy said:The equivalent charge is the same as the individual charges.
For how many capacitors in series? The formula will change as the number goes up.gracy said:Now how to proceed from here?
This is why it's better to understand the concept rather than try to memorize individual formulas. The concept applies to any number components in series, and a correct formula can be written down every time from the principle involved.cnh1995 said:For how many capacitors in series? The formula will change as the number goes up.
chargegneill said:Find out what is common to every component
Calculate total charge from the equation Qtotal=Ceq*V. Then simply use Vconcerned=Qtotal/Cconcerned.gracy said:Now how to proceed from here?
100 multiplied by 8μCcnh1995 said:Qtotal=Ceq*V.
You have to consider only the series combination .gracy said:100 multiplied by 8μC
800 μC=Qtotal
Right?
Right. Qtotal for the series combination.gracy said:100 multiplied by 2μC
200 μC=Qtotal
Right?
Vcd=200 μC/6μFcnh1995 said:Then simply use Vconcerned=Qtotal/Cconcerned.
Correctgracy said:Vcd=200 μC/6μF
=100/3 Volts
Right?
We didn't have to. We simply followed the instructions from gneill in #82.gracy said:But we did not use voltage divider rule anywhere.
cnh1995 said:It will be not as straightforward as it is for resistors. Because resistors is series add directly while capacitors in series don't.. You can derive it but can't memorize it because it will change with number of capacitors.
But I want to learn,I will create a separate thread on it.cnh1995 said:We didn't have to
Can we solve all the problems with these steps that can be solved with voltage divider rule ?cnh1995 said:We simply followed the instructions from gneill in #82.
You can do that using the information you calculated (the Q on each capacitor).gracy said:I also have to show charge distribution on capacitor plates.
You used the general voltage divider principle though, which boils down to the voltage divider rule when only two components are involved. The general principle is more flexible and can be applied in more situations without having to memorize a bunch of different formulas.gracy said:But we did not use voltage divider rule anywhere.
Yes. Actually voltage divider rule for resistors is nothing but these steps. You can verify.gracy said:Can we solve all the problems with these steps that can be solved with voltage divider rule ?
Right.gracy said:VR1V_{R1} = VinV_{in} R1R1+R2+Rj+R(n−1)+Rn\frac{R1}{R1 + R2+R_j+R_(n-1)+R_n}
Right?
That's because series capacitors don't add directly.gracy said:I am unable to write the same for capacitors
I believe the summation part in the numerator should be in the denominator. Also, you can verify this formula by putting n=2.gracy said:I'll give it a try
VC1V_{C1}=VinV_{in} C2CjCn−1Cn+C1CjCn−1Cn+C1C2Cn−1+Cn+C1C2CjCn+C1C2CjCn−1C1C2CjCn−1Cn
gracy said:in the picture why ##V_{Rn}## =##I####R_n## and ##V_{Cn}##=##\frac{Q}{C_n}## is not shown
Any random element ?ehild said:i-th element