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News ESCAPING NORTH KOREA - Mike Kim

  1. Jun 30, 2009 #1

    Ivan Seeking

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    This caught my attention tonight on the Daily Show.

    http://www.escapingnorthkorea.com/

    According to Mr. Kim, from early childhood, North Korean children are taught to hate Americans. He even gave an example of math problem that a NK child might be given: If I kill 2 Americans with one hand grenade, and I kill 3 more Americans with another hand grenade, how many Americans have I killed?

    Luckily, according to Mike Kim, people inside of NK are beginning to get the message that Kim Jong-il is not a God, and that much of what they have been taught is propoganda. Nonetheless, it seems that we have an entire nation of people who have been brainwashed to hate us.
     
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  3. Jun 30, 2009 #2

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    The other takeaway from that Daily Show piece for me was that the people are asked to get along on fewer meals a day and have no idea how relatively extravagantly the ruling class is living.

    I found looking about North Korea in Google Earth was a definite eye opener. I was struck by how few cars there seems to be in the cities. It's as though they don't need parking lots and traffic lights. Tehran look downright prosperous compared.

    If the people in North Korea could see the estates set aside for the elite on Google Earth, they might not be happy ... if happy is a word with any currency there in the first place.
     
  4. Jun 30, 2009 #3
    IMHO, it would have been much better if he had kept politics out of this book. What negative attitude towards US has to do with "Children remembered the suffering they endured through the famine. Women and girls recalled their horrific sex-trafficking experiences". I want to buy this book but I hope he don't try to put politics in everything.

    I have been trying to find a book about North Korea people itself free from politics.
     
  5. Jun 30, 2009 #4

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    May be, but it is certainly something that I want to know about. I think it is an imperative to know if an entire nation has been brainwashed to hate us. Of course, you're not an American.

    Also, it seems that it may not be possible to understand the NK culture without understanding how hatred of the US has been used as a crutch for a corrupt if not insane dictator.
     
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  6. Jul 1, 2009 #5

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    Does he mention brainwashing against the Japanese as well, or just against the Americans?
     
  7. Jul 1, 2009 #6
    Wow, that must be a grim story indeed. North Korea is the most isolated nation on Earth and its citizens are basically cut off from all of the outside world. I remember that there was once a documentary I watched directed by a reporter who managed to get into North Korea and film the life of ordinary citizens there. Cannot think of the name right now though but from what I saw, the people were extraordinarily graceful and always with a smile on their faces.
     
  8. Jul 1, 2009 #7
    So you prefer to discuss people rather than ideas, that's great. I find what you just wrote so sordid.

    Self declared most authoritative map of North Korea on Google Earth from North Korean Economy Watch
     
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  9. Jul 1, 2009 #8
    If author provides his pro-American views in the introduction extract, it is likely that his opinions will be biased through out the whole book. And all he might be focusing on is how NK is wrong and introducing his bias in every single story he provides. I think even if he should introduce politics, he should try to be neutral.
     
  10. Jul 1, 2009 #9

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    It must chafe their chaps that Google Earth offers such a detailed view of their country and their lack of facilities and material infrastructure.

    Compared with the activity in and around Seoul, I'd say Pyongyang is a relatively sterile place. That's a hard thing to explain away. I imagine that's why they try so hard not to have to.
     
  11. Jul 1, 2009 #10
    If you are pro NK I understand better your reaction. I doubt that discussing how NK demonizes the US necessitate to be pro US. Probably NK demonizes the entire rest of the world anyway.
     
  12. Jul 1, 2009 #11
    Rereading the OP link, I discovered I was wrong.
     
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