Euler's Equations for Extremas of J: y=C*e^x

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the extremas of a functional using Euler's equations and the attempt at finding the curve y=y(x) for this problem. The solution involves finding the general solution using constants and using that to find the extremas. It is noted that for future homework, x can be assumed to be a constant even if it appears in the equation.
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Homework Statement


For the functional [tex]J(y(x))=\int^{x1}_{x2}F(x,y,y')dx[/tex], write out the curve [tex]y=y(x)[/tex] for finding the extremas of J where [tex]F(x,y,y')=y'^2+y^2[/tex].


Homework Equations


Euler's Equations:
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial y} - \frac{d}{dx}\frac{\partial f}{\partial y'}=0[/tex]
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} - \frac{d}{dx}(f-y' \frac{\partial f}{\partial y'})=0[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


Using [tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial y} - \frac{d}{dx}\frac{\partial f}{\partial y'}=0[/tex],
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}=2y[/tex]
[tex]2y=\frac{d}{dx}\frac{\partial f}{\partial y'}[/tex]
[tex]2y=\frac{d}{dx}2y'[/tex]
[tex]y=\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}[/tex]
[tex]y=C*e^x[/tex] Where C is a constant.

Is this correct? Using the 2nd equation, I get an ugly answer that involves Sinh.
 
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Yo,

The general solution will be y=Ce^(lambda)x.

So you do y''-y=0

Which will look like: c(lambda)^2*e^x-c*e^x=0.

You can find lambda to be + or - 1. So your general solution will be C1*e^x+C2*e^-x=y.



Also, on the rest of our Homework III and IV, you can assume that it is a constant even if it has an x in it, Sophie said so.
 
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Your solution is correct. However, you can simplify it further by using the second equation to eliminate the second derivative of y.

Starting with \frac{\partial f}{\partial x} - \frac{d}{dx}(f-y' \frac{\partial f}{\partial y'})=0, we can substitute in the given values for F(x,y,y') and solve for y.

\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} - \frac{d}{dx}(y'^2+y^2-y'2y)=0
\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} - \frac{d}{dx}(y'^2-y^2)=0
2y'y''-2yy'=0
y''-y=0
y=C_1e^x+C_2e^{-x}

This is equivalent to your solution, but without the need for the second derivative.
 

1. What are Euler's Equations for Extremas?

Euler's Equations for Extremas is a set of equations developed by mathematician Leonhard Euler to find the maximum and minimum values of a function. These equations are used in calculus and optimization problems.

2. What is the significance of the letter "J" in the equation?

"J" represents the function that is being optimized. In this case, it is a function of y and x.

3. How is the constant "C" determined in this equation?

The constant "C" is determined by the initial conditions of the problem. These initial conditions can be used to solve for the specific value of "C" that satisfies the equation.

4. Can Euler's Equations be used to find the minimum and maximum values of any function?

Yes, Euler's Equations can be used to find the minimum and maximum values of any differentiable function. However, the function must have a single independent variable and a single dependent variable.

5. Are there any limitations to using Euler's Equations for Extremas?

While Euler's Equations are powerful tools for finding extrema, they can only find the local extrema of a function. This means that there may be other points on the function that are higher or lower, but are not considered local extrema. Additionally, these equations may not always provide a solution for all types of functions.

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