Evaluate integration

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Evaluate [tex]\int t^{14} ln(t) dt[/tex]


using integration by parts and formula [tex]uv-\intv du[/tex]

u=ln(t)
du=1/t
dv=t^14
v=t^15/15

lnt*t^15/15-[tex]\int[/tex]t^15/15*1/t

lnt*t^15/15-t^14*log(t)

i don't know what I am doing wrong, please help
 
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First step is fine. You're over-thinking the second step:

[tex] \int{\frac{t^{15}}{15} \frac{dt}{t}} = \int{\frac{t^{14}}{15}dt = \frac{t^{15}}{225} [/tex]

So the answer should read:

[tex] \int{\left(\ln t\right) t^{14} dt} = \frac{t^{15}}{15} \left(\ln t - \frac{1}{15} \right) [/tex]
 
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CellCoree said:
Evaluate [tex]\int t^{14} ln(t) dt[/tex]


using integration by parts and formula [tex]uv-\intv du[/tex]

u=ln(t)
du=1/t
dv=t^14
v=t^15/15

lnt*t^15/15-[tex]\int[/tex]t^15/15*1/t

lnt*t^15/15-t^14*log(t)

i don't know what I am doing wrong, please help

DO NOT USE THIS HORRIBLE MIXTURE OF INTEGRATION BY PARTS AND INTEGRATION BY SUBSTITUTION!
Write:
[tex]\int{uv'}dt=uv-\int{u'v}dt[/tex]
[tex]u=ln(t)\to{u}'=\frac{1}{t}[/tex]
[tex]v'=t^{14}\to{v}=\frac{1}{15}t^{15}[/tex]
 
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arildno said:
DO NOT USE THIS HORRIBLE MIXTURE OF INTEGRATION BY PARTS AND INTEGRATION BY SUBSTITUTION!
Write:
[tex]\int{uv'}dt=uv-\int{u'v}dt[/tex]
[tex]u=ln(t)\to{u}'=\frac{1}{t}[/tex]
[tex]v'=t^{14}\to{v}=\frac{1}{15}t^{15}[/tex]


what do you mean? your setup is just like mines
 
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CellCoree said:
what do you mean? your setup is just like mines
Nope!
1. "Using formula uv-du"
Complete nonsense
If you want to use this method properly, write:
udv=d(uv)-vdu
2.Furthermore
you use a meaningless constuction like du=1/t
If you want to use this method, you must write du=1/t*dt
3. Your integral lacks dt, and is therefore meaningless as well
 
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jamesrc said:
First step is fine. You're over-thinking the second step:

[tex] \int{\frac{t^{15}}{15} \frac{dt}{t}} = \int{\frac{t^{14}}{15}dt = \frac{t^{15}}{225} [/tex]

So the answer should read:

[tex] \int{\left(\ln t\right) t^{14} dt} = \frac{t^{15}}{15} \left(\ln t - \frac{1}{15} \right) [/tex]


ok i know how you got [tex] \int{\frac{t^{15}}{15} \frac{dt}{t}} = \int{\frac{t^{14}}{15}dt [/tex]

but how did you get

[tex]\int{\frac{t^{14}}{15}dt = \frac{t^{15}}{225} [/tex]

i know you got the anti-derv. of it, and i tried to look in my book for a form like that, but i can't find it. can you explain to me how you did that?

for [tex]\int{\frac{t^{14}}{15}dt[/tex] i used u-du sub.

u=14
du=u+1

so... t^u/du but i can't seem to find that form in the book
 
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[tex] \int \frac{t^{14}}{15} dt = \frac{1}{15}\int t^{14} dt = \frac{1}{15}\frac{t^{15}}{15} =

\frac{t^{15}}{(15)^{2}} = \frac{t^{15}}{225} [/tex]
 

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