Well I'm happy that you've been civilized about your agenda and you admit it upfront. The point I was making was I participated in this thread to discuss the topic and I felt like you were sucking me in so you could tell me I'm not saved, I'm going to hell, etc. I fully respect your beliefs but I really don't have the desire to sit here and get preached to.Forgive me Jameson, My agenda is obvious to say the least and I pushed the specifics of it a little bit, but I couldn't help but to put that in there when you made that comment about thinking about God as God. Surely you can see why I would have utilized this.
Also, if you are not comfortable with my approach, then you should come up with your own thread about how you like to discern agendas and presume that we can have a discussion about God without having an agenda. Did this come as a surprise to you that I have said what I've said so far? The topic I have posted is quite broad. It's clear that you can't talk about God unless you have absolute beliefs about who He is. And this I know because without a dogmatic belief, God becomes less than who God really is. He becomes our object of interrogation and no answer at this point becomes suitable.
I think we've all come to the conclusion that the statement "everything is about God" is very subjective and because we all are looking at this from contrasting extremes, we probably will not get anywhere further in this discussion. At least that's my thought.
This is a common argument to atheists, saying if their is no afterlife then why live? It doesn't matter, we'll just die right? Well not everyone looks at life that way. Personally, I want to contribute something to the world that would be helpfull in any way or form. Also, I want to have a loving family. I don't believe I will live in heaven once I die, but I still have plenty to live for. Some people aren't capable of grasping purpose in life without God.Ultimately the whole point of this was to maybe say something that perhaps you haven't heard before. If God can't be defined, or if God isn't the one who defines, then nobody is right or wrong, there is no truth or lies, and there is really no point to anything because we're just going to the grave anyhow.
Nick, I'm assuming that's your name, in an earlier post you said to me that everyone knows God exists, but some just do not recongnize this. That is a very bold statement. You seem so convinced, like you can prove it. Do you believe this is so?