Evidence for descrete space and no dark matter

In summary, the paper by Cahill discusses a generalization of Newtonian gravity that explains gravitational anomalies and the deficiencies of dark matter in elliptical galaxies. This theory introduces a new dimensionless constant, which is shown to be equivalent to the fine structure constant in electrodynamics. Cahill's work has been published in other sources and has found evidence for dark matter deficiency in previous studies.
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I am not sure what forum category this should go in, but since Cahill's paper (see abstract and link below) claims to be the first evidence for discrete space, which of course supports LQG, this may be the appropriate location. I searched the Physics Forum for Cahill and got zero hits. His theory is rather groundbreaking if true.



Gravitation, the 'Dark Matter' Effect and the Fine Structure Constant
Authors: Reginald T. Cahill (Flinders University)
Comments: 11 pages, 3 eps figures
Subj-class: General Physics
Gravitational anomalies such as the mine/borehole g anomaly, the near-flatness of the spiral galaxy rotation-velocity curves, currently interpreted as a `dark matter' effect, the absence of that effect in ordinary elliptical galaxies, and the ongoing problems in accurately determining Newton's gravitational constant G_N are explained by a generalisation of the Newtonian theory of gravity to a fluid-flow formalism with one new dimensionless constant. By analysing the borehole and spiral galaxy data this constant is shown to be the fine structure constant alpha=1/137. This formalism then also explains the cause of the long-standing uncertainties in G_N and leads to the introduction of a fundamental gravitational constant G not = G_N with value G=(6.6526 +/- 0.013)x 10^-11 m^2s^{-2}kg^{-1}. The occurrence of alpha implies that space has a quantum structure, and we have the first evidence of quantum gravity effects.
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http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0401047
 
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The mine/borehole g anomaly refers to an experiment made in a mile- deep borehole in Greenland that seems to contradict Newton's law of gravity. You can read about it here: http://www.totse.com/en/fringe/gravity_anti_gravity/weighty.html
 
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Nereid's comments on the claimed deficiency of dark matter in elliptical galaxies would be most helpful, I imagine.

My impression was that dark matter is needed to explain NOT ONLY the flat rotation curves of spiral galaxies, but also the fact that clusters of galaxies (including ellipticals) can stay bound, given the high observed random velocities of individual galaxies).

Nereid knows a lot about the evidence for dark matter.

Cahill's idea has some potential weakness. It seems to call for a preferred frame (the CMB frame) and an idea of absolute motion. (Is this your impression also? I was not sure.)

His revision of Newtonian gravity also calls for a dimensionless constant which is 139 based on Greenland ice borehole measurements and 137 based on spiral galaxy
arguments, and Cahill makes the leap of identifying this with the 137.036... of electrodynamics---the inverse fine structure constant. But he does not offer an explanation, at least that I can see in this paper, for why his gravity constant should be the same as the fine structure constant (which is about the strength of electrical attraction, a coupling constant for electrical charge, not about gravity
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But one can say seveal things in Cahill's defense. He has been published elsewhere. And he has done research and dug up evidence of unexpected deficiency of dark matter in ellipticals, and gravitational anomalies under Greenland ice. Here are prior publications:

R.T. Cahill, Quantum Foam, Gravity and Gravitational Waves, in Relativity, Gravitation, Cosmology, pp. 168-226, eds. V. V. Dvoeglazov and A. A. Espinoza Garrido
(Nova Science Pub., NY, 2004).

he cites this preprint http://arxiv.org/physics/0312082

R.T. Cahill, Gravity as Quantum Foam In-Flow, Apeiron, 11, No.1, pp. 1-52(2004).

R.T. Cahill, Absolute Motion and Gravitational Effects, Apeiron, 11, No.1, pp. 53-
111(2004).

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Here is a sample of his evidence for dark matter deficiency:

[5] A.J. Romanowsky, et al., A Dearth of Dark Matter in Ordinary Elliptical Galaxies,
Science 301, 1696(2003).

[7] K.C. Freeman, The Hunt for Dark Matter in Galaxies, Science 302, 1902(2003).

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If Nereid deigns to comment, it will be to murder Cahill but in a nice way, I expect :wink:

Maybe the cutting edge of science is so mixed up with its fringe
that you can never say confidently which is which,
and what makes it real science instead of pseudo
is not its normality or craziness but
the fact that it makes predictions by which it risks
empirical negation.
 
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1. What is the evidence for discrete space?

One of the key pieces of evidence for discrete space is the observation of the cosmic microwave background radiation, which shows small variations in temperature that are consistent with a discrete grid-like structure. Additionally, experiments such as the Gravity Probe B and the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO) have also provided evidence for discrete space through their measurements of gravitational waves.

2. How does discrete space explain the observed rotation curves of galaxies?

Discrete space theories propose that the gravitational pull of matter is spread out in discrete units rather than being continuous, which can explain the observed rotation curves of galaxies without the need for dark matter. This is because the discrete gravitational pull would be stronger at smaller scales, allowing stars on the outer edges of galaxies to maintain their orbits without the need for additional mass.

3. Can discrete space theories also explain the observed large-scale structure of the universe?

Yes, discrete space theories can also account for the observed large-scale structure of the universe, including the distribution of galaxies and galaxy clusters. These theories propose that the discrete structure of space itself can create gravitational attraction between objects, leading to the formation of large-scale structures without the need for dark matter.

4. How do discrete space theories differ from the standard model of cosmology?

The standard model of cosmology, also known as the Lambda-CDM model, includes the concept of dark matter to explain certain observations, while discrete space theories do not require the existence of dark matter. Additionally, the standard model is based on the assumption of continuous space, while discrete space theories propose a discrete structure for space itself.

5. What are the current limitations of discrete space theories?

Discrete space theories are still in the early stages of development and there is not yet a widely accepted theory that can fully explain all of the observed phenomena. Additionally, these theories may face challenges in explaining certain observations, such as the Bullet Cluster, where the separation of dark matter from normal matter has been observed. Further research and observations are needed to fully understand the potential of discrete space theories.

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