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Exciting riverbed problem

  1. Aug 5, 2009 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    The cross-section of a channel is parabolic. It is 3 metres wide at the top and 2 metres deep. Find the depth of water, to the nearest cm, when the channel is half full.


    2. Relevant equations
    Nil.

    3. The attempt at a solution
    I found the function for the graph to be [tex]y=x^2-3x[/tex]. Then I figured that I could just plug (0,0) and (3,0) into the integrand, [tex]\frac{\1}{3}x^3-1.5x^2[/tex], and then divide by two to get the answer. I'm pretty sure that the problem lies with the method, not my math. I have a feeling that's not the above method does not solve the problem, but I'm not sure why that is so.

    For reference, my method gets 225cm while the book has 126cm.
     
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  3. Aug 5, 2009 #2

    Gib Z

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    Well, I would have personally interpreted the graph to be such that the parabola passed through the points (-1.5, 2) (0,0) and (1.5, 2). With those points we can find the equation of the parabola, sub in y=1 and solve for x.

    Your equations has a width of 3, but its depth is not 2 as the description states.
     
  4. Aug 5, 2009 #3
    Ok thanks, now I'm getting 137cm, and its probably because my function is a bit out of the points. Also, Is my latex correct, I'm supposed to see the [tex] stuff right?
     
  5. Aug 5, 2009 #4

    Gib Z

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    To start tex code, use [ tex ] but to end it its [ /tex ], without the spaces of course.
     
  6. Aug 5, 2009 #5

    HallsofIvy

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    I have corrected the LaTex. You just need "[/tex]" at the end, not "[ tex ]".

    The simplest way to do this would be to take the origin of your coordinate system to be at the vertex so that the equation is just [itex]y= ax^2[/itex]. That is, the parabola passes through (0,0), (3/2, 2), and (-3/2, 2) and you determine a by [itex]2= a(3/2)^2[/itex].

    From that, the "full" volume is [itex]\int_{-3/2}^{3/2}2- ax^2 dx[/itex] and the depth half full, h, is given by [itex]a\int_{-3/2}^{3/2} h- ax^2 dx= (1/2)\int_{-3/2}^{3/2}2- ax^2 dx[/itex].
     
  7. Aug 19, 2009 #6
    I agree with Halls of Ivy that you should probably look at the way you're integrating.
    Once you've gotten the proper equation for a parabola, I see two methods. .
    A) Make a rectangle from the x axis up to your line y = 2, ending at the points (+1.5, 2) and (-1.5, 2). What is the area of this box?
    How does the area given by the definite integral relate to this?
    B) More tricky method: Take the inverse of the parabola, and integrate directly the area of water, and use that.
     
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