Could the expansion of space impact the distance between the Earth and the sun?

In summary, the conversation discusses the effects of cosmological expansion on the distance between Earth and the sun, the orbit of the Earth, and the speed of light. It is explained that on a smaller scale, such as the distance between galaxies, gravitational attraction prevents separation due to expansion. However, on a larger scale, such as the distance between galactic clusters, the expansion is noticeable. It is also mentioned that the speed of light is considered a constant, although there is a formula that allows for a greater speed of light. The conversation concludes with the understanding that the gravitational attraction between Earth and the sun keeps the Earth at a relatively constant distance, despite the effects of expansion being present.
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AcidRainLiTE
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I have 2 questions:

1. Since space is expanding, shouldn't the distance between the Earth and the sun be getting greater? And shouldn't that affect the orbit of the Earth (greater distance between the Earth and sun ->> less gravitational attraction)?

2. Is it possible that the speed of light could have been faster at one point. For example I was looking at the following:

t = t0(1-(v^2/c^2))^(1/2) (I think this is correct)

I understand why this formula (and the others like it for mass and distance) would imply that no object could travel faster than the speed of light (can't take square root of a negative)...but that doesn't seem to limit what c can be. If c were greater that doesn't cause any problems in the formula. Are there other reasons for saying that the speed of light has always been a constant speed?

Thanks.
 
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Gravitationally bound masses do not separate because of cosmological expansion. It is only on the scale of the distances between galatic clusters that the separation distances increase
 
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Is that because the expansion is so small it is unnoticable? Or does the gravitational attraction (continuously) pull the Earth back to the correct distance from the sun?
 
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To get a physical picture - imagine a balloon that is expanding - on the surface we place some objects that indent the expanding balloon because they have inertia (mass) ... two nearby objects would tend to fall together because each rolls toward the indentation produced by the other - these objects are the galaxies and the indentations are the local effect (curvature) of matter on space - if the objects are far enough apart they will separate faster than they roll toward one another - this occurs on the scale of galatic cluster - but if they are closer the effect of the indentation causing them to move toward one another will be greater than the expansion of the balloon as a whole - so we see local galaxies like M31 blue shifted (moving toward the Milky Way).
 
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AcidRainLiTE said:
Is that because the expansion is so small it is unnoticable? Or does the gravitational attraction (continuously) pull the Earth back to the correct distance from the sun?
Both. Gravitational attraction pulls the Earth back to the sun, but not exactly to the "correct" distance. And the difference is so small that it remains unnoticeable.
 

1. How does space expand?

Space expands due to the force of dark energy, which is a mysterious force that acts like anti-gravity and causes the universe to expand at an accelerating rate. This expansion is also known as the expansion of the universe.

2. What is the role of starlight in the expansion of space?

Starlight does not play a direct role in the expansion of space. However, the light from distant stars and galaxies can be used to measure the rate of expansion and track the changes in the expansion over time.

3. Can we see the effects of expanding space?

No, we cannot see the effects of expanding space directly. However, we can observe the effects of expanding space through other phenomena, such as the redshift of light from distant galaxies and the cosmic microwave background radiation.

4. Does expanding space affect the speed of light?

No, the speed of light is constant and is not affected by the expansion of space. However, the expansion of space can cause the wavelength of light to stretch, resulting in a phenomenon known as cosmological redshift.

5. Will the expansion of space ever stop?

It is currently believed that the expansion of space will continue indefinitely, as long as the force of dark energy remains constant. However, theories and research on the fate of the universe are constantly evolving, and it is still a topic of active scientific debate.

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