Exponential Equation System: Solving 3^xy=2^yx and 12^xx=3^y4

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In summary, the conversation is about how to solve a system of equations involving transcendental functions. The attempts at solving the equations using logarithms and a change of base were unsuccessful. The conversation ends with a suggestion to try using a Hall of Ivy substitution, but it is unclear where to go from there.
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Homework Statement


Solve this system of equations:

[tex]3^xy=2^yx[/tex]
[tex]12^xx=3^y4[/tex]

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The Attempt at a Solution



I was solving and came up, till here:
[tex]x=\frac{3^xy}{2^y}[/tex]
[tex]6^y4=36^x[/tex]

Please help. Thanks.
 
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Actually I'm surprised you were able to get that far! Most equations that involve variables both "inside" and "outside" transcendental functions cannot be solved in terms of elementary functions.

Once you are at
[tex]6^y4= 36^x= (6^2)^x= 6^{2x}[/tex]
You can take the logarithm of both sides:
[tex]y ln(6)+ ln 4= 2x ln 5[/tex]
Where you would go from there, I have no idea.
 
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This system of equations have no solution?
 
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I didn't say that. It said it might not be possible to solve it using elementary functions.
 
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The actual problem was:

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But I simplify it to the one above.
 
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Try using change of base of the logarithm functions first, and then try. Put then into either base 2 or base 3. I have not tried this in your exercise but believe it's worth trying.
 
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I tried on several ways and it didn't worked.

btw- on the first post should be:
[tex]
6^y4=36^xy
[/tex]
 
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Use Hall of Ivy substitution

in the above equation: (6^2x)y=(6^y)4.
 
  • #9
Maybe
[tex]log_66^y4=log_66^2xy[/tex]

[tex]y+log_64=2x+log_6y[/tex]

But where I will go out of herE?
 

1. What is an exponential equation system?

An exponential equation system is a set of equations that involve exponential functions. These equations typically have variables in both the base and exponent positions, making them more complex to solve compared to linear equations.

2. How do you solve an exponential equation system?

To solve an exponential equation system, you can use logarithms. By taking the logarithm of both sides of the equations, you can isolate the variables and solve for their values.

3. What is the solution to 3^xy=2^yx and 12^xx=3^y4?

The solution to this exponential equation system is x = 2 and y = 4. By taking the logarithm of both equations, we can simplify them to xln3 + yln2 = ylnx and 2xln12 = yln3 + 4ln3. By solving these equations simultaneously, we can find the values of x and y.

4. Are there any other ways to solve an exponential equation system?

Yes, there are other methods to solve an exponential equation system, such as substitution or graphing. However, using logarithms is the most common and efficient method.

5. Can an exponential equation system have multiple solutions?

Yes, an exponential equation system can have multiple solutions. However, in this particular system, there is only one unique solution of x = 2 and y = 4.

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