Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Fermat's last theorem

  1. Apr 22, 2007 #1
    How was Fermat's last theorem proved and why did it take so long to solve this problem?
    Is there a shorter,more elegant solution waiting to be found?Can the methods of calculus be used to solve this problem?
  2. jcsd
  3. Apr 22, 2007 #2

    matt grime

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper

    read the book. (and it is too hard to explain here, though basically it asserts that some canonical bijection between two sets of objects was written down).

    because it is very hard to even think of the method to attack this problem, never mind find the correct argument using that method.

    probably not or it would have been found by now.

    depends what you call calculus, but I'll plump for 'no': you need to know a lot more maths than the average PhD in maths understands to appreciate the proof, and that certainly goes beyond whatever you mean by 'the methods of calculus.'
  4. Apr 22, 2007 #3
    Calculus or not, I think at the levels at which to prove is read, branches superpose each other constantly and hence the label "calculus" wouldn't mean anything.
  5. Sep 20, 2010 #4
    I was also wondering whether there is a simpler solution to the problem. Afterall, Fermat claimed he had the proof and I cant imagine his proof being even remotely as compliated as that of prof. Wiles (the Taniyama-Shimura conjecture and stuff...:confused:)

    Was Fermat just bragging (which I doubt) or did he have a sort of ˝approximate˝ proof?
  6. Sep 21, 2010 #5
    Well, when I went to school before Wiles' proof, that matter was given over to much conjecture and there was no clear answer. Some believe he made a mistake about unique factorization, as did Kummer. Many, many amateurs have been absolutely sure that Fermat had his proof, and have used that premise to believe that some simple idea is just laying around waiting to be found by the lucky one. But that has not been shown to work out.

    There was in 1908 the Walfskehi prize of 100,000 marks for a correct solution. But that largely disappeared in the collapse of the mark, but was restored in present times and collected finally by Wiles. It was worth $50,000.

    Walfskehi was an interesting story in himself. He was going to commit suicide, and arranged everything in his office in a very methodical way. He set the exact time, but suddenly he thought he had found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem, and he worked long and hard at that. But by the time he found his mistake, the hour of his death passed; and, of course, as methodical as he was, he had to drop the whole matter. He proved so grateful about that that he created the prize.
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2010
  7. Sep 21, 2010 #6


    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor

    No, Fermat was not "bragging" (after all, he wrote his comment about having a simple proof in the margin of a book only he read- it was not even discovered until after his death). What happened to Fermat was the what happens to mathematicians regularly- he thought he saw a way to give a very general proof, wrote down a comment to remind himself, and then when he looked more closely, saw that it die not work.
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook

Have something to add?

Similar Discussions: Fermat's last theorem
  1. Fermat's last theorem (Replies: 7)

  2. Fermat's Last Theorem (Replies: 53)

  3. Fermat's last theorem? (Replies: 2)

  4. Fermat's Last Theorem (Replies: 3)