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Find the limit of a sequence

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Homework Statement


given a geometric sequence sin(x),sin(2x), . . .
c) find for which values of x∈(0,π) this sequence converges and calculate its limit

Homework Equations


|q|<1 or -1<q<1


The Attempt at a Solution


Ok so in part a) and b) i calculated the quotient and found out that
q=sin2x/sinx
q=(2*cos(x)*sin(x))/(sin(x))
q=2*cos(x)
so know i tried to figure out for which values x will converge
|q|<1
-1<q<1
-1<2*cos(x)<1 /:2
-1/2<cos(x)<1/2
2π/3>x>π/3
which means that the sequence will converge when the angle is anywhere between 120° and 60°
However i'm unsure now how to continue to find the limit because I've never seen an example where the value x isin't exactly defined
could someone show me how this is done or give me some kind of a hit or check if I made a mistake somewhere inbetween
Thanks
 
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What makes you think that is s geometric sequence?

Also, you use both the terms series and sequence. Which is it?
 
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I'm really sorry I made a mistake while translating the text into english.
Also it is written in the problem that this is a geometric sequence
 
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And the sequence is sin(x), 2 cos(x)sin(x), 4cos^2(x)sin(x), 8 cos^3(x)sin(x), ... ?
Yes, the "geometric sequence a, ar, ar^2, ar^3, ... converges for -1< r< 1 and converges to a/(1- r). Here you are saying that a= sin(x) and r= 2cos(x).
 
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I'm really sorry I made a mistake while translating the text into english.
Also it is written in the problem that this is a geometric sequence
Perhaps there is a problem in translation, but clearly ##sin(nx)## is not in general a geometric sequence. Take ##x = \pi/2## for example.
 
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Perhaps it will be better if I write the whole problem out not just the last step I'll try to do that right now
 
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And the sequence is sin(x), 2 cos(x)sin(x), 4cos^2(x)sin(x), 8 cos^3(x)sin(x), ... ?
yes that's the sequence.
converges to a/(1- r). Here you are saying that a= sin(x) and r= 2cos(x).
but woudn't that just give me the sum of all elements of the sequence?
Edit :
I asked my profesor if he could give me the solutions and he didn't have much time but I did get to take a picture if this helps in any way
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so the solutions to 5 c)
are π/3 ≤ x < 2*π/3 --------- it is the same that I got but I don't know why there is an equal sign?
x=π/3 ----------- the limit is sqrt(3)/2
π/3 < x < 2*π/3 the limit is 0 <------------------- i get this because if -1< r< 1 the sequence converges to 0
Could someone explain the equal sign in the first inequality
 
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So, the question is: For which values of x does the geometric sequence converge:

##sinx, sinx(2cosx), sinx(2cosx)^2 \dots##
 
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yes basically
 
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Well, I though if the series converges the sequence would converge as well.
Therefore I went ahead and wrote that |q|<1
 
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Many sequences converge when the corresponding series does not.

What about #q =1##?
 
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Hmmm, now that you pointed it out if q=1 the limit of the sequence would simply be sin(x)
 
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Homework Statement


given a geometric sequence sin(x),sin(2x), . . .
c) find for which values of x∈(0,π) this sequence converges and calculate its limit
Is the sequence
sin(x), sin(2x), sin(3x), sin(4x), sin(5x), ...
or is it
sin(x), sin(x), sin(4x), sin(8x), sin(16x), ....?
 
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the sequence is
sin(x), sin(x)*2cos(x), sin(x)*(2*cos(x))2, sin(x)*(2*cos(x))3, sin(x)*(2*cos(x))4, . . .
 
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Many sequences converge when the corresponding series does not.

What about #q =1##?
i think I get it now
the sequence
an=sin(x)*(2*cos(x))n-1 will converge when either |2*cos(x)|<1--------- when that is true the sequence will converge to 0
or when 2*cos(x)=1
2*cos(x)>1 this is not possbile because a limit would not exist here
2*cos(x)=-1 because the limit doesnt exist here either
am I correct about this?
 
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i think I get it now
the sequence
an=sin(x)*(2*cos(x))n-1 will converge when either |2*cos(x)|<1--------- when that is true the sequence will converge to 0
or when 2*cos(x)=1
2*cos(x)>1 this is not possbile because a limit would not exist here
2*cos(x)=-1 because the limit doesnt exist here either
am I correct about this?
Yes.
 

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