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Find the radius of 2 circles

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Homework Statement:

Two circles go through 2 points (1,3) (2,4)
Both circle touches y-axis. Find r1*r2
The mutiple of the radius of both circle

Relevant Equations:

d = ##\sqrt{(x2^2-x1^2) (y2^2 - y1^2) }##
Middle point of (1,3)(2,4) is (1.5, 3.5)
r1 to r2 passing through (1.5, 3.5)
I cannot grasp on what should i do to find r1 and r2 from the line

Without graph*
 
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Why don't you take the known information and put it on a graph. It's a start.
 
  • #3
Why don't you take the known information and put it on a graph. It's a start.
Without graph it should be
 
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pasmith
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If the center of a circle of radius R is on the line [itex]y = mx + c[/itex] and the circle touches the y-axis, then the equation of that circle must be [tex]
(x - R)^2 + (y - (mR + c))^2 = R^2.[/tex] If you know [itex](x,y)[/itex] (a point on the circle) and [itex]m[/itex] and [itex]c[/itex] then this is a quadratic you can solve to find [itex]R[/itex].

Here you know two points on the circle, [itex](x_1,y_1) = (1,3)[/itex] and [itex](x_2,y_2) = (2,4)[/itex]. There are at least two ways of using this information to find [itex]m[/itex] and [itex]c[/itex].
 
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ehild
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Without graph it should be
Who will know if you made a sketch for yourself? You can see the problem better from a graph. Solution without graph means that you can not read the results from the graph.
Both circles go through both points P1(1;3) and P2(2;4). And both circles touch the y axis. The centers of the circles are O1(x1;y1) and O2(x2;y2), there radii are r1, r2. See the "forbidden" graph (not in scale).

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How is the x position of the center of a circle related to the radius if the circle touches the y axis?
(The y axis is tangent to the circle, the radius drawn to the tangent point is perpendicular to the tangent line.)

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How is the x position of the center of a circle related to the radius if the circle touches the y axis?
(The y axis is tangent to the circle, the radius drawn to the tangent point is perpendicular to the tangent line.)

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If a1, b1 were the center point of circle 1. Then a1 = r1, then b1 = mr1 + c
Just what @pasmith says right?
The graph does help too.
 
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If the center of a circle of radius R is on the line [itex]y = mx + c[/itex] and the circle touches the y-axis, then the equation of that circle must be [tex]
(x - R)^2 + (y - (mR + c))^2 = R^2.[/tex] If you know [itex](x,y)[/itex] (a point on the circle) and [itex]m[/itex] and [itex]c[/itex] then this is a quadratic you can solve to find [itex]R[/itex].

Here you know two points on the circle, [itex](x_1,y_1) = (1,3)[/itex] and [itex](x_2,y_2) = (2,4)[/itex]. There are at least two ways of using this information to find [itex]m[/itex] and [itex]c[/itex].
y =mx + c
You mean the line go through middle point between P1 and P2? Which also go through r1 and r2 right?
That's m = -1 c = 5
Plug into
[tex](x - R)^2 + (y - (mR + c))^2 = R^2.[/tex]
Either using (1,3) or (2,4)
Give me r = 1 or r = 5 right?
 
  • #8
Why don't you take the known information and put it on a graph. It's a start.
Yes.
 

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