Find the radius of the circle for this airplane

In summary, the conversation discusses solving a physics problem involving a banked turn of an airplane. Participants mention using equations such as f=ma and v^2/r, as well as discussing the correct method for finding the radius of the turn. They also discuss the importance of drawing the situation accurately and using the correct definitions for angles. Ultimately, the issue is resolved by using the cotangent function in the equation.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


f=ma
v^2/r

The Attempt at a Solution


Σfx = FNcos(θ) = (v^2/r)*m
Σfy = FNsin(θ) - mg = 0
FN = mg/sin(θ)
(mg/sin(θ))*cos(θ) = (v^2/r)*m
gcos(θ)*r = v^2*sin(θ)
r = v^2sin(θ)/gcos(θ) v = 150m/s θ = 38
r = 1793m
i have already solved this one a while ago and am reviewing for test tommorow and getting a bullocks answer that is not correct what on Earth am i doing wrong here?
 

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Try a sanity check of your final formula. For very tiny bank angle, you get r nearly 0 because of the sin(theta). You should get r very large. What does that tell you?
 
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Try a sanity check of your final formula. For very tiny bank angle, you get r nearly 0 because of the sin(theta). You should get r very large. What does that tell you?
ok i just used cotangent and got the correct answer.. i am not seeing what i did wrong algabraicly let me look back thank you
 
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i do not see what i did wrong algabraically
 
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isukatphysics69 said:
Theta from the OP is the angle the wings make with the horizontal. Have you drawn it consistently with that definition? When theta equals zero (that is, when the plane is horizontal) are you saying the normal force will be horizontal too? (That’s what your picture shows.)
 
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The force that drives an airplane in a curved path is the component of lift directed toward the center of the path, L sin θ, where θ is the bank angle. So L sin θ = m v^2/r. If the airplane is flying in a horizontal path, that also means the vertical component of lift equals the weight, L cos θ = mg..And of course L = CL q S, where CL= lift coefficient, q=dynamic pressure, S=wing area.
 
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If you solve the vertical equation for the lift and substitute it into the radial equation and solve for the radius, you will find the tangent function in the denominator not the numerator.
 
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@isukatphysics69 Hi, can you explain where did you put the cotangent in your formula?
 
  • #10
See #7 & #8.
 

1. What is the formula for finding the radius of a circle?

The formula for finding the radius of a circle is r = c / (2 * π), where r is the radius, c is the circumference, and π is a constant approximately equal to 3.14.

2. How do I measure the circumference of a circle?

The circumference of a circle can be measured by using a flexible measuring tape or string to wrap around the circle, then measuring the length of the tape or string in centimeters or inches.

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5. Can I find the radius of a circle if I only know two points on the circle's circumference?

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